What are the future treatments for maintenance?

[Norwaw]

Can someone please summarise the next generation of options for maintenance of existing hair.

I'm considering those at a NW2/3, who don't want to use propecia. As I understand it, most reputable HT surgeons will only operate if you are doing something to maintain what you have?

Is there any hope at all for a finasteride alternative in the semi near future?

[tommy e]

CB0301 and i think that's all.

[BDDFreak]

Bimatoprost is also going through its last phase this year if I'm not mistaken. But I don't think that actually prevents hair loss like an anti androgen would but more like rogaine where there is some regrowth.

[burtandernie]

Maybe this, but its pretty questionable still if its accurate or not. Probably a few years before propecia will be obsolete unfortunately since I also would really like to avoid ever using that.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=15018

[HairBane]

Maybe this, but its pretty questionable still if its accurate or not. Probably a few years before propecia will be obsolete unfortunately since I also would really like to avoid ever using that.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=15018

That's cool if true. I'm sure there are things in development that are not on our radars, maybe some companies wait to finish trials before doing any marketing if they already have funding.

Anyway, in terms of future maintenance treatments (topical side-effect-free anti-androgens), you have CB-01-03 which should be released for acne in less than 2 years, and of course you can get access to it now and bootstrap it - same for RU. There's also this stuff called Hygiea HYG-440 which might be in the works by Restorgenex. Then there's probably a few I/we don't know about. If you believe the whole Pillox ion helmet thing, that will be released this year.

What's likely though (and hopefully the case) is that these treatments will in the not too distant future be outgunned by stem cell based regrowth and DHT-fortifying solutions, rendering a 'maintenance' therapy obselete.

[Pentarou]

If (if) it is real and works as claimed, I'd imagine that Pilox would be very useful for maintenance.

[LMS]

Theres a few topical AAs in trials or being developed.

CB of course, the nitric oxide one (novantherapeutics or something), and anotherone I can't remember I think its called like ASJ9 or something similar like that.

All more or less in the same stages (Phase 2), all going for the acne market first, AGA market secondary....

[burtandernie]

Just out of curiosity I looked this up - nitric oxide one (novantherapeutics or something). The page showing the pipeline does not mention anything for MPB so are they not planning on trials for MPB or have they just not even started yet? Acne is on there and pretty far along. They mentioned 90 percent had significant improvement for acne so it must do something

[LMS]

Just out of curiosity I looked this up - nitric oxide one (novantherapeutics or something). The page showing the pipeline does not mention anything for MPB so are they not planning on trials for MPB or have they just not even started yet? Acne is on there and pretty far along. They mentioned 90 percent had significant improvement for acne so it must do something

They published a paper about the potential for a MPB treatment. Using the same compound/vehicle/whatever as for acne. Honestly not to concerned, as long as the acne version comes out it will be:

a) strong enough for AGA (somewhat doubtful)
b) We'll figure out some workaround to make it a stronger concentration and thus effective for AGA

And yea Im pretty happy, they're supposed to publish Phase 2 results sometime in Q1 2014 I believe so very soon. Seems Cosmo (CB) might have a competitor!


edit: heres the paper im talking about

edit2: Thing is, all these therapies mean jack shit if we don't have hair. Which means I'll very soon be nuking my head/body with RU and/or Fin. Goodnight sweet DHT + TEST and all related things that come with it

[burtandernie]

True I mean you have to decide what to do right now because the hair is not coming back years from now. That being said the idea of nuking my body with propecia does worry me a bit.

[Notcoolanymore]

I wouldn't go as far as to say taking propecia is "nuking your body". Sides have been devastating for a few thousand out of several million that have taken it. Pretty good safety profile compared to most prescription meds. I have seen several thread where people are trying to find contributors to hair loss: stress, vitamin deficiencies, etc. The internet is probably the biggest contributor of them all.

[Notcoolanymore]

There are many threads out there with future treatments that are so called side free, really, the chemicals in these treatments can't be pronounced by most people. You seriously think using these treatments will be 100% side free? You are introducing foreign chemicals into the body of course there will be the potential of sides just like propecia. This miracle, side free cure will never exist. Potential for sides will always be there.

[strife91]

Notcoolanymore do u have a propecia banner up on ur wall or maybe a bumper sticker on ur car ? Better yet a tattoo " fin til death" across ur chest hahaha

[LMS]

There are many threads out there with future treatments that are so called side free, really, the chemicals in these treatments can't be pronounced by most people. You seriously think using these treatments will be 100% side free? You are introducing foreign chemicals into the body of course there will be the potential of sides just like propecia. This miracle, side free cure will never exist. Potential for sides will always be there.

I was only being half serious. If I really thought exceedingly negative side effects were guaranteed I wouldn't be taking propecia in the very near future.

[Norwaw]

Thank you for all of the information so far guys. It's promising and frustrating in equal measure that we are so close to finding something better than fin.

I'm just trying to come up with a realistic plan - an absolute cure seems highly improbable for me, so I have saved the money for a hair transplant, but I need to know I can keep the hair I have. Wish Cosmo would focus on AA rather than acne

It's nice to have some light at the end of the tunnel though. If any news comes in for these treatments/any others, hopefully it can continue to be shared in this thread.