CB 03-01 What Is The Status

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  • thatkidd
    Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 80

    #46
    Actually, I just saw at the top of the ID page it says

    Ethylene/Propylene Glycol 1:1 mix, 1% by volume.

    So this is the vehicle we can all get and make, and currently make for RU. I don't think this vehicle will work for CB...

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    • Amercancer
      Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 54

      #47
      This is about RU, I'm really worried about what I read looking for reviews about it. I read about someone having heart problems with it after using only three times. Is this true?

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      • beetee
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 187

        #48
        Hello all-

        I've just recently started looking into cb and I have a question I'm having a hard time finding an answer to: is there any indication that they think it might regrow hair or is it just supposed to stop hair loss (so just preserve what you have at the time). I am referring specifically to the prescription product Cosmo is working on, not the various versions that one can order now and that people are experimenting with.

        Thanks!

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        • HairBane
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 300

          #49
          Originally posted by beetee
          Hello all-

          I've just recently started looking into cb and I have a question I'm having a hard time finding an answer to: is there any indication that they think it might regrow hair or is it just supposed to stop hair loss (so just preserve what you have at the time). I am referring specifically to the prescription product Cosmo is working on, not the various versions that one can order now and that people are experimenting with.

          Thanks!
          They got pretty good regrowth in trials.

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          • burtandernie
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 1563

            #50
            Yeah those are pretty good improvements in all those categories. A topical that works like this with no sides is a dream come true if we can finally replace propecia. I think its just a question of if a topical vehicle can reproduce these kinds of results. Not sure what vehicle they used for this chart.
            I think the vehicle though is critical part of this, because some stuff even like topical spiro just doesnt work well because the vehicle is not good enough. You would think given the 100 previous topicals getting a good vehicle would be basically a solved problem by now, but I guess for whatever reason its not?

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            • Kudu
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 206

              #51
              I believe Cosmo used a hydro electrophoresis device, you would think that someone with a sh*t load of money would have bought one and used it with some success...

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              • lilpauly
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1084

                #52
                Originally posted by Kudu
                I believe Cosmo used a hydro electrophoresis device, you would think that someone with a sh*t load of money would have bought one and used it with some success...
                Yes man that's what they used but if they plan on releasing it they will have to find another vehicle

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                • Kudu
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 206

                  #53
                  Originally posted by lilpauly
                  Yes man that's what they used but if they plan on releasing it they will have to find another vehicle
                  Its so frustrating that we have something that works but no way to deliver it, has anyone had success with the current vehicles? I haven't heard about any good results

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                  • BDDFreak
                    Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 77

                    #54
                    Does anyone know what their pipeline is looking like right now? What stage they're at regarding clinical trials or how much longer it's gonna take to come to market supposedly?

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                    • efedrez
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 168

                      #55
                      Hello everyone, this is my first time posting here but has been following the forums for quite some time now.

                      Does anyone know why if Cosmo got good results using an electrophoresis device they are not offering a treatment using the device to solve the issue of the vehicle?

                      I image it would be significantly more expensive than taking the treatment at home but at least it would be a decent alternative to Fin with no sides

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                      • Sogeking
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 494

                        #56
                        Originally posted by efedrez
                        Hello everyone, this is my first time posting here but has been following the forums for quite some time now.

                        Does anyone know why if Cosmo got good results using an electrophoresis device they are not offering a treatment using the device to solve the issue of the vehicle?

                        I image it would be significantly more expensive than taking the treatment at home but at least it would be a decent alternative to Fin with no sides
                        2 reasons, intermingled, IMHO.
                        1. Vehicle is what makes CB especially effective and so it comes with the package. Since CB is still ongoing clinical trials they can't offer the product.
                        2. If they just put the vehicle out there they would basically give their competition a really good vehicle which might work favorably for their competition.


                        I also have a question guys. If this vehicle is really better wouldn't that make all the chemicals used with that vehicle all that better at entering the bloodstream at greater numbers (at greater quantity)?
                        Basically if one were to use hydro electrophoresis device with finasteride topical, which would of course improve that topical, then there would be much more of finasteride in the bloodstream.
                        Now that could potentially inhibit more DHT than with the usage of normal oral fin and give to the users more serious side effects?
                        Am I getting this wrong. Can someone please disapprove this notion of mine?

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                        • burtandernie
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1563

                          #57
                          Yeah that makes sense to me getting more fin absorbed just means more sides. CB on the other hand turns into a harmless neurosteroid once it enters the blood stream so CB shouldnt have a bad effect like that which is what makes it unique from most topicals. Of course its all theory until its shown for sure.

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                          • strife91
                            Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 50

                            #58
                            Originally posted by efedrez
                            Hello everyone, this is my first time posting here but has been following the forums for quite some time now.

                            Does anyone know why if Cosmo got good results using an electrophoresis device they are not offering a treatment using the device to solve the issue of the vehicle?

                            I image it would be significantly more expensive than taking the treatment at home but at least it would be a decent alternative to Fin with no sides
                            Yeah when I find one I can steal or figure out how to make my own one il let u know haha if somebody had the smarts to make one and then made a DIY guide that would be cool

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1581

                              #59
                              I thought cosmo was supposed to be presenting on CB this month?

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                              • HairBane
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 300

                                #60
                                Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                                I thought cosmo was supposed to be presenting on CB this month?
                                Supposedly at the very end of the month, although I don't know the source for that. Haven't they recently finished phase 2(b?) for acne? So they should have some safety and efficacy results, hopefully some clues to a vehicle, etc.

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