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  • lilpauly
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1084

    #16
    Originally posted by Knockin on NW4
    Look at the MW of the GFs. Then read the 500 dalton rule for skin penetration. even with the so called nano solution and derm rolling there is no way the active ingredients are gonna make it to the follicle. If it were possible Histogen would be topical , yet its injected. Hmmm.

    No one is getting growth, there are only subjective reviews like "insert username" likes it.
    lol i suggest u read the study regarding using a dermaroller. it can peneraate quite alot. also they are also in a nano solution. if memory serves me right knockin u were the only person who got regrowth with pioneer/ labpe psi? and we all know the psi was produced wrong

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    • lilpauly
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1084

      #17
      Assembled microneedle arrays enhance the transport of compounds varying over a large range of molecular weight across human dermatomed skin


      Verbaan, F.J. and Bal, S.M. and Berg van den, D.J. and Groenink, W.H.H. and Verpoorten, H. and Luttge, R. and Bouwstra, J.A. (2007) Assembled microneedle arrays enhance the transport of compounds varying over a large range of molecular weight across human dermatomed skin. Journal of Controlled Release, 117 (2). pp. 238-245. ISSN 0168-3659


      In this study, we demonstrate the feasibility to use microneedle arrays manufactured from commercially available 30G hypodermal needles to enhance the transport of compounds up to a molecular weight of 72 kDa.

      Piercing of human dermatomed skin with microneedle arrays was studied by Trypan Blue staining on the SC side of the skin and transepidermal water loss measurements (TEWL). Passive transport studies were conducted with Cascade Blue (CB, Mw 538), Dextran - Cascade Blue (DCB, Mw 10 kDa), and FITC coupled Dextran (FITC-Dex, Mw 72 kDa). Microneedle arrays with needle lengths of 900, 700 and 550 ?m are able to pierce dermatomed human skin as evident from (a) the appearance of blue spots on the dermal side of the skin after Trypan Blue treatment and (b) elevated TEWL levels after piercing compared to non-treated human dermatomed skin. Microneedles with a length of 300 ?m did not pierce human skin in vitro. Transport studies performed with model compounds ranging from 538 Da to 72 kDa revealed that pretreatment with microneedle arrays enhanced the transport across dermatomed human skin. However, some degradation was also observed for FITC-Dex and DCB. We conclude that assembled microneedle arrays can be used to deliver compounds through the skin up to a molecular weight of at least 72 kDa.

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      • lilpauly
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1084

        #18














        kncokin the growth factors studies . these are the same growth factors.

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        • Jazz1
          Inactive
          • Aug 2012
          • 1598

          #19
          Mark where can I buy these growth factors from?

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          • Pelusete
            Junior Member
            • May 2013
            • 6

            #20
            Lilpauly, anageninc's growth factors are out of stock

            Do you know when it will be avaible or another web where can I buy it?

            Thanks.

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            • Hairismylife
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 383

              #21
              Originally posted by Jazz1
              Mark where can I buy these growth factors from?
              I wanna try too

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              • lilpauly
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1084

                #22
                Bro I have no idea when they will be back in stock. I also believe growth factors cannot stop hairloss 100% u will also need to take dht blocker . If people ate not on the big 3 I suggest u try that first . People also must educate themselves about potential side effects regarding experimentals . Kane does not make these growth factors . He gets them from South Korea. Also these growth factors I would only recommend on the hairline or bald spot .

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                • Hairismylife
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 383

                  #23
                  Originally posted by lilpauly
                  Bro I have no idea when they will be back in stock. I also believe growth factors cannot stop hairloss 100% u will also need to take dht blocker . If people ate not on the big 3 I suggest u try that first . People also must educate themselves about potential side effects regarding experimentals . Kane does not make these growth factors . He gets them from South Korea. Also these growth factors I would only recommend on the hairline or bald spot .
                  I have never taken fin and I swear that I WON'T. Someone said the sides are long lasting, if not permanent. Btw, what potential sides do growth factors have?

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                  • Knockin on NW4
                    Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 81

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lilpauly
                    lol i suggest u read the study regarding using a dermaroller. it can peneraate quite alot. also they are also in a nano solution. if memory serves me right knockin u were the only person who got regrowth with pioneer/ labpe psi? and we all know the psi was produced wrong
                    Seriously dude? U got me in on the labpe psi trial and in phg. And when I posted the results i wasnt all that impressed and YOU overhyped them!!! I even said i was coming off the worst shed of my life before and it could be rebound and not results... geez. And why do you take so much offense to me bringing up the fact that that its nearly impossible for a molecule as massive as the ones in the gfs to penetrate? U can post all the studies u want. But until someone shows results with the anagen GFs, I will remain a skeptic. As always.

                    And the kicker here is. I'm ACTUALLY BALD. AND ACTUALLY SUFFERING. not a single person that saw u in real life would even consider you to have MPB.

                    But go ahead and try to hurt my credibility here I don't care because I have nothing to gain. i dont understand why youre being so defensive unless u have something to loose. And im not talking about your hair.

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                    • lilpauly
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1084

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Knockin on NW4
                      Seriously dude? U got me in on the labpe psi trial and in phg. And when I posted the results i wasnt all that impressed and YOU overhyped them!!! I even said i was coming off the worst shed of my life before and it could be rebound and not results... geez. And why do you take so much offense to me bringing up the fact that that its nearly impossible for a molecule as massive as the ones in the gfs to penetrate? U can post all the studies u want. But until someone shows results with the anagen GFs, I will remain a skeptic. As always.

                      And the kicker here is. I'm ACTUALLY BALD. AND ACTUALLY SUFFERING. not a single person that saw u in real life would even consider you to have MPB.

                      But go ahead and try to hurt my credibility here I don't care because I have nothing to gain. i dont understand why youre being so defensive unless u have something to loose. And im not talking about your hair.
                      U are right man growth factors are not a game changer . It's just like cb bro . No1 seems to be getting results with it as well. I don't k ow many people that bought growth factors yet over the years many bought cb.

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