piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

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  • Bocaj
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 177

    Originally posted by greatjob!
    Without even knowing details of the treatment, the fact that the people involved with it refuse to post on forums if anyone questions them or contradicts them in anyway is all the proof you need that this is more than likely BS.
    Good thing I looked at the title of this thread. I thought you were referring to something else

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    • greatjob!
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 909

      Originally posted by bocaj
      good thing i looked at the title of this thread. I thought you were referring to something else :d
      lol

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      • rhysmorgan
        Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 94

        Originally posted by Arashi
        vraf was caught posting fake pictures. Yoram's clinic turned out to be a massive seller of snakeoil therapies including leechers for hairgrowth, so yeah I guess you can conclude hope is dead for this one ...

        Good news though for the last month: A group of Taiwanese researchers is starting a 400 person clincial trial with their DP culture technology and Jahodo's group is going to do a presentation at WCHR2014 about the improvements of their DP culture technology.
        Personally I think this is a little premature. My opinion would be that yes, it is unlikely to be as effective as they say it is (or even real; we all know the hairloss industry) however, the initial trial photos were very convincingly shot, and I think one forum member's photos' inconsistencies and an association of the lead researcher is not enough to fully discount the potential of this product.

        We will see, it's a crapshoot!

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        • rhysmorgan
          Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 94

          Originally posted by greatjob!
          Without even knowing details of the treatment, the fact that the people involved with it refuse to post on forums if anyone questions them or contradicts them in anyway is all the proof you need that this is more than likely BS.
          This is not all the proof you need. It's not a good sign, but it certainly doesn't completely negate the quality of the initial trial photos, and the possibility they were of real efficacy.

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          • greatjob!
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 909

            Originally posted by rhysmorgan
            This is not all the proof you need. It's not a good sign, but it certainly doesn't completely negate the quality of the initial trial photos, and the possibility they were of real efficacy.
            How do you know what proof I need?

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            • rhysmorgan
              Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 94

              Originally posted by greatjob!
              How do you know what proof I need?
              Read your comment again.

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              • bananana
                Inactive
                • Feb 2012
                • 524

                any news?

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  Originally posted by bananana
                  any news?
                  No. People at the private forum tell me that vraf has been posting his 4 month result but there's no difference at all so far. But who cares about a guy who has been caught with fake pictures in the first place. Why wouldnt he try to fake it again ? But so far he hasn't done it again and after 4 months there's no difference to be seen.

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by Arashi
                    No. People at the private forum tell me that vraf has been posting his 4 month result but there's no difference at all so far. But who cares about a guy who has been caught with fake pictures in the first place. Why wouldnt he try to fake it again ? But so far he hasn't done it again and after 4 months there's no difference to be seen.
                    Well at least his hair isn't worse.... lol.

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                    • LMS
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 226

                      I'd say there is some noticeable improvement. Still to early to form a conclusion but like always don't hold your breath.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        Originally posted by LMS
                        I'd say there is some noticeable improvement. Still to early to form a conclusion but like always don't hold your breath.
                        I've seen the photo's, one could get the impression there's a difference if you compare the last to the first photo but that's due to the angle and lighting (also look at the nose to get an idea of the different angle and see the hair color for difference in lighting). Compare the first photo to the one from a week ago and that one actually looks WORSE than his first photo, 4 months ago !!

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                        • vraf
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 9

                          Arashi is a Liar!!!

                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          No. People at the private forum tell me that vraf has been posting his 4 month result but there's no difference at all so far. But who cares about a guy who has been caught with fake pictures in the first place. Why wouldn't he try to fake it again ? But so far he hasn't done it again and after 4 months there's no difference to be seen.
                          You exploits the fact that I don’t write here and continue lying to people.
                          How miserable and desperate you have to be in order to lie and destroy people hope?

                          Guys, I’VE NEVER POSTED FAKED PICTURES!!!!

                          This man wants Pilox to be declared as scam so bad so he has no problem to deceive you again and again.
                          BEWARE!!!

                          It will take long time till Pilox will be on the market, long enough for you to realize and see facts that Arashi is just another liar with interests and Pilox is real.

                          (now he will pump the thread with many posts so this one will be forgotten behind... )

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                          • HairBane
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 300

                            Originally posted by vraf
                            You exploits the fact that I don’t write here and continue lying to people.
                            How miserable and desperate you have to be in order to lie and destroy people hope?

                            Guys, I’VE NEVER POSTED FAKED PICTURES!!!!

                            This man wants Pilox to be declared as scam so bad so he has no problem to deceive you again and again.
                            BEWARE!!!

                            It will take long time till Pilox will be on the market, long enough for you to realize and see facts that Arashi is just another liar with interests and Pilox is real.

                            (now he will pump the thread with many posts so this one will be forgotten behind... )
                            Show us some convincing pictures here then. It seems to me that Arashi has no motivation to lie about this, where as you may well have some monetary incentive. Put up or shut up though.

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              Originally posted by vraf
                              You exploits the fact that I don’t write here and continue lying to people.
                              How miserable and desperate you have to be in order to lie and destroy people hope?

                              Guys, I’VE NEVER POSTED FAKED PICTURES!!!!

                              This man wants Pilox to be declared as scam so bad so he has no problem to deceive you again and again.
                              BEWARE!!!

                              It will take long time till Pilox will be on the market, long enough for you to realize and see facts that Arashi is just another liar with interests and Pilox is real.

                              (now he will pump the thread with many posts so this one will be forgotten behind... )
                              You didnt post any fake pictures ? So you deny that YOU posted this picture: http://cdn.imghack.se/images/df6f625...bc28ab3b9b.jpg ? And then you call ME the person with interest ? LOL. Tell me then, which procedure am I pumping here ? It is YOU who is pumping a procedure. Don't turn things around. And it is YOU who chose to post only on boards where people get banned when they voice criticism.

                              And then you talk about being miserable. Tell me then, how miserable are you when you sell snake oil therapies to people and tell them they should apply blood sucking leechers to their arms and hair will grow ? And stick needles in their ears and tell them hair will grow ? That's the kind of stuff Yoram sells to desperate baldies, to earn his living. And you say that I am the miserable one ? How do guys like you and him sleep at night, knowing that they make their living by selling lies to people who actually did honest work to make their living ?

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                              • bigentries
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 465

                                Originally posted by vraf
                                You exploits the fact that I don’t write here and continue lying to people.
                                How miserable and desperate you have to be in order to lie and destroy people hope?

                                Guys, I’VE NEVER POSTED FAKED PICTURES!!!!

                                This man wants Pilox to be declared as scam so bad so he has no problem to deceive you again and again.
                                BEWARE!!!

                                It will take long time till Pilox will be on the market, long enough for you to realize and see facts that Arashi is just another liar with interests and Pilox is real.

                                (now he will pump the thread with many posts so this one will be forgotten behind... )
                                Destroy people's hopes?
                                You only destroy people's hopes if you expose a lie. If your thing works, no hopes are destroyed.

                                Why do you claim it will take "long time"? Didn't you claim the thing was going to come out in 8 months?

                                You already have a place were people are only allowed to praise you, if you want to scam people you have plenty of victims there

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