piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

[NeedHairASAP]

It's interesting how this is the 1st post you have made on the forum. You have registered a BTT account to tell everyone they are dumb for not believing this product when it clearly is the same one. Do you possibly work for Yoram.

What is so clear about Pilox being the device from the russian website?

I would venture to say the is extremely clear that they are not the same device....


The issue, to me, is Yoram's involvement in another treatment. If pilox is so good, why bother with anything else?

It's the same question I had for nigam, if his multiplication worked, why offer all the other stuff? We found the answer to that now....

STILL, I am very hopeful for Pilox and urge people not to scare Yoram away.... that wont do us any good AT ALL

[bigentries]

Oh intelligent one, please do forgive us mere Neanderthals for being completely unreasonable in adding two and two together in this situation (that's about all we can manage anyway). How dare we even attempt to connect the dots?! It is of absolutely NO significance that the same guy who is supposedly behind Piloxll is also pioneering another similar treatment via an overly dodgy site in Russian that has charlatan and scam and snake oil written all over it. I mean who cares about his other ventures, right? Who gives a damn if he's involved in taking advantage of the very people who come to forums like this looking for a cure? Piloxll is completely unrelated so we'll just brush this whole little embarrassing Russian episode under the carpet... and we'll try not to be so dumb in the future.

People on hair loss forums use very weird logic.
Yeah, this guy is involved in a snake oil treatment, but who cares he is taking advantage of a sub-set of bald guys?, he is promising us a real, yet very similar treatment, this time!

I didn't liked one bit how he avoided the russian site question in the private forums. I even think vraf and other Israeli posters are either the same person or working together to push this thing

[porta]

That website ist not promoting a cure, but a treatment to add more thickness to the hair, only that.

[bigentries]

That website ist not promoting a cure, but a treatment to add more thickness to the hair, only that.

Source please

[JJJJrS]

I'm getting more and more convinced it's a scam. Yoram got tons of questions regarding that Russian site, he totally ignored them ! When asked about the current treatments he said he didnt want to go into that because he thought it might come off as 'promotion'. He's involved with a clinic that sells snake oil and then that whole story about that booklet with photo's at the hairdresser ...

It's all just TOO weird, so many things not adding up ... Still can't say anything for certain, but it's all getting weirder and weirder ...

Yup. Big scam vibes from this one. People should be very careful before jumping in and potentially wasting a lot of money.

[Kalio]

That website ist not promoting a cure, but a treatment to add more thickness to the hair, only that.

I am also not really sure why people are suddenly convinced its a scam because of the Russian website. As far as I can see, they're only claiming the thickening of thinning hair and are not proclaiming they can cure baldness.

No outlandish claims on the rest of the site either.

[bigentries]

What is so clear about Pilox being the device from the russian website?

I would venture to say the is extremely clear that they are not the same device....


The issue, to me, is Yoram's involvement in another treatment. If pilox is so good, why bother with anything else?

It's the same question I had for nigam, if his multiplication worked, why offer all the other stuff? We found the answer to that now....

STILL, I am very hopeful for Pilox and urge people not to scare Yoram away.... that wont do us any good AT ALL

We wouldn't it do us any good at all?

If he gets scared, so what? if the thing is true, in 8 months you will see the thing plastered everywhere since Jude Law would get his career back

If nothing comes out, or no one is getting results when it comes out, it would mean the things was a scam all along.

People shouldn't worry about skepticism unless they have something to hide. Science grows out of skepticism, no matter what position you are taking

It's like no one was here in 2013, PGD2, indomethacin, Nigam, dermarolling and minox. It's amazing some of you still have the "open mind" approach after being fooled time after time

[hellouser]

Yup. Big scam vibes from this one. People should be very careful before jumping in and potentially wasting a lot of money.

The Russian site and PiloxII are separate entities AFAIK.

[greatjob!]

You can wound with lasers.... non-dermarolling wounding is possible.... and has been confirmed by people other than Yoram and Pilox team.

I understand that, what I was referring to was the fact that the guy who introduced this here and said he is in the clinical trials said it was painless and consisted of just using the device for 15 minutes a day and there were no visible effects to the skin. That is not possible with any other known wounding technique as far as I know, for example lasers are painful and leave evidence that they were used, you can't wound without wounding.

[bigentries]

The Russian site and PiloxII are separate entities AFAIK.

No one is saying they are the same thing hellouser

However, there is a connection, and what Yoram was describing in the private forum sounds very similar to the Russian treatment

If you don't have any trouble with the connection, fine. But a lot of us are worried that a guy that is promoting snake oil is also claiming to have a legit treatment

You really need to detach emotionally from Piloxx, it is obvious you don't like any skepticism from things you decided are truth, remember the dermarolling and semen debacle.

[hellouser]

No one is saying they are the same thing hellouser

However, there is a connection, and what Yoram was describing in the private forum sounds very similar to the Russian treatment

If you don't have any trouble with the connection, fine. But a lot of us are worried that a guy that is promoting snake oil is also claiming to have a legit treatment

You really need to detach emotionally from Piloxx, it is obvious you don't like any skepticism from things you decided are truth, remember the dermarolling and semen debacle.

Jesus christ dude, this is like the 4th time I'm going to tell you... get this through your thick skull:

I HAVE NO EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO PILOXII.

I've been keeping my eye on it, yes. So have you. Does that mean you're emotionally attached to it as well?

Hop off my nuts already, you're constantly speaking on my behalf. WHY?

[bigentries]

Jesus christ dude, this is like the 4th time I'm going to tell you... get this through your thick skull:

I HAVE NO EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO PILOXII.

I've been keeping my eye on it, yes. So have you. Does that mean you're emotionally attached to it as well?

My god.

Well, you claimed you had never seen the russian thing before, even when you replied about it in *** in December, and now you are too worried about people talking about it.

If you don't have problem with skepticism, just let it flow

[hellouser]

Well, you claimed you had never seen the russian thing before, even when you replied about it in *** in December, and now you are too worried about people talking about it.

If you don't have problem with skepticism, just let it flow

AGAIN: quit speaking on my behalf.

I'm not worried. Why the hell would I be? Do I have anything to gain or lose? I don't care about any of the connections. I'm *only* interested in the efficacy of PiloxII. I haven't even taken part much in the discussions about it. My only praise for it is in regards to the stellar photography shown in the before/after pictures.

[greatjob!]

Well, you claimed you had never seen the russian thing before, even when you replied about it in *** in December, and now you are too worried about people talking about it.

If you don't have problem with skepticism, just let it flow

Be careful bro he'll put you on his ignore list....Lol

[bigentries]

AGAIN: quit speaking on my behalf.

I'm not worried. Why the hell would I be? Do I have anything to gain or lose? I don't care about any of the connections. I'm *only* interested in the efficacy of PiloxII. I haven't even taken part much in the discussions about it. My only praise for it is in regards to the stellar photography shown in the before/after pictures.

That's why I think you have developed an emotional attachment as you did with the dermarolling, why wouldn't you worry about the connections then?
You also lied about not knowing about the russian site, why did you do it?

The connections are important to uncover if Pilox is a scam or not. The russian site also has amazing pictures, what do you think about them then? A guy in the private forum chat found they seem to be taken in the same place the hairdresser pics were taken