piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

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  • Atum
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 93

    There are pics of woman in there. And if I am not mistaken woman can't take fin. There is a chance it might work, so wait and see, everything is possible.

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    • chimera
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 171

      We don't have enough info to know if this product is real. We don't have enough info to know if this product is fake. Seriously, all we can do at this point is speculate. And that's fine I think. I try to see the good and the bad on things...

      But damn, it seems that if you don't immediatly reject this thing then you are a sad man clinging deperately to whicheverer little hope you can chew out of this. Either that or then you are blindly emotianaly attached to it...

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      • carvo
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 10

        Hey guys,

        Search any "yoram" or "benitah" at staff guideline of Technion University and see what happens...

        http://www.admin.technion.ac.il/engtelbook/

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        • BDDFreak
          Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 77

          The pilogics team which is behind piloxll does seem to have Technion staff. Notably Dov Ingman and Erez Manor.


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          • NeedHairASAP
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1408

            Originally posted by carvo
            Hey guys,

            Search any "yoram" or "benitah" at staff guideline of Technion University and see what happens...

            http://www.admin.technion.ac.il/engtelbook/
            I think you're confusing Yoram with the engineers in the patents.

            I could be wrong, but I believe it's the engineers of this device that are from Technion, not Yoram.

            Anybody else remember?

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            • Thinning@30
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 316

              The fact that we want to believe in this (i i include myself) shows our desperation. But honestly if you put our desperation aside, to believe that electronic devices like lazercomps, laser helmets, ion manipulators will bring our hair back is a joke. I don't care if these pictures are photoshopped or not, if they want to scam us they could put a bunch of people on propecia + minox and tell us this the result of the magical device.

              I hear this guy Zoran or whatever his name is has been offering treatments for a long time now for patients. He could just use his photo album of his best responders to fin and minox and make us all think its a magical device that brings these results.

              Point is enough people will buy it, the placebo effect will work for a while in reviews and it will be years till we say its crap just like the lazercomps which still sell no matter the lack of results.
              Or better yet, put people in wigs and toupees and try pass that off as the results of the new product.

              This is why caution is so important and we should be extra wary of stuff that seems to come out of nowhere and is not going through the standard three phases of clinical trials. I have been on this forum long enough to see several cycles of scam products, and I feel fortunate not to have succumbed to any of them yet. I think the posts from skeptics are the most valuable, provided they outline their thought process rather than just subject everyone to a bunch of one line postings that are variations of "Definitely a scam. Scam, scam, scam, etc!"

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              • BDDFreak
                Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 77

                I believe the 2 that have their names on the patent (Dov Ingma and Erez Manor) are just engineers from Technion that probably helped create the instrument. They don't seem to have any background in the hair loss field specifically, but on the Technion website it's noted that Dov Ingman is a member of graduate studies in quality assurance and reliability which seems to be a plus lol. http://tx.technion.ac.il/technion/qa...rs/ingman.html

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  Originally posted by BDDFreak
                  I believe the 2 that have their names on the patent (Dov Ingma and Erez Manor) are just engineers from Technion that probably helped create the instrument. They don't seem to have any background in the hair loss field specifically, but on the Technion website it's noted that Dov Ingman is a member of graduate studies in quality assurance and reliability which seems to be a plus lol. http://tx.technion.ac.il/technion/qa...rs/ingman.html
                  I wouldn't expect guys working on the device itself to know much about hair. The guy's are likely just asked by Yoram (or whichever doctor) to make the device according to his requirements doing what its supposed to for fighting hair loss, he's the one that came up with the science, not the production of the device, correct?

                  It'd be like assuming that Dr. Wesley's engineers for the Pilofocus device are also doctors with knowledge on hair loss.

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                  • BDDFreak
                    Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 77

                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    I wouldn't expect guys working on the device itself to know much about hair. The guy's are likely just asked by Yoram (or whichever doctor) to make the device according to his requirements doing what its supposed to for fighting hair loss, he's the one that came up with the science, not the production of the device, correct?

                    It'd be like assuming that Dr. Wesley's engineers for the Pilofocus device are also doctors with knowledge on hair loss.
                    I'm not questioning the method behind who comes up with the science or who actually invents the device. Like you said Yoram probably came up with the science and hired the Technion engineers to make the device. I was just trying to point out that there's where the connection with Technion comes from and that's about all. I'm sorry if I didnt explain my self properly.

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                    • bananana
                      Inactive
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 524

                      Any news from vraf? Or someone more closely related to pilox?

                      I know this is a wait game, but I'm eager to find out new details...

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                      • cotto
                        Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 33

                        Originally posted by bananana
                        Any news from vraf? Or someone more closely related to pilox?

                        I know this is a wait game, but I'm eager to find out new details...
                        yes, there were two forum members that were on the trials, and no more replys coming from those membres?
                        Shit i just need some new treatment to get an hair transplant and keep going

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                        • deuce
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 209

                          Does anyone know when we will get a better idea if this stuff works or comes out?

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                          • Atum
                            Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 93

                            Originally posted by deuce
                            Does anyone know when we will get a better idea if this stuff works or comes out?
                            Last year in december they said around 8 months till it's released. So that makes it around august, although it's better to wait till further info pops up.

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                            • locke999
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 158

                              Originally posted by Atum
                              Last year in december they said around 8 months till it's released. So that makes it around august, although it's better to wait till further info pops up.
                              It seems unlikely to me that they would release something in 8 months. If those pictures weren't leaked on this forum, piloxii would be non-existent. They don't even have a website up, or tried in any way to get this product name out there.

                              Do they expect to release a product in 8 months without advertising about it ever? That is why I find it hard to believe that it will be released this year, of course that is, IF it is a real and working product.

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                              • UK_
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2691

                                8 months figure pulled out of someones ass.

                                This is going to end in misery as usual.

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