Histogen 2013 MESA Presentation

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  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    #16
    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
    Well if they bring it out now that i'm still NW3, that would be very helpful. But it's not coming out now is it? 5 years? When I will be like an NW5billion. I'm seriously considering just ending it all, going to India, and get an FUE for cheap from a quality doctor there next year. I can't wait much longer. From 16 years old to 24 years old with this nightmare.
    If everything goes right it should go way faster than 5 years. The first clinical trial for Regenica, the product they now have on the market, started 5 years ago. Histogen is already half way in the trails for their hair product. And if people who say they don't need phase III in Asia are correct, we might actually see it early 2015. But I still don't know if that's true or not (them not needing phase III in Asia that is).

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    • PatientlyWaiting
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1637

      #17
      Originally posted by Arashi
      If everything goes right it should go way faster than 5 years. The first clinical trial for Regenica, the product they now have on the market, started 5 years ago. Histogen is already half way in the trails for their hair product. And if people who say they don't need phase III in Asia are correct, we might actually see it early 2015. But I still don't know if that's true or not (them not needing phase III in Asia that is).
      Let's say with phase 2b and III done here in the U.S., would it then be on the market for U.S. in 2016?

      And a diffused NW3, with Histogen treatment could go back to what exactly? NW1? thick dense NW2? NW0?

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      • Thinning87
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 839

        #18
        You're asking the kind of questions that cannot be answered in a forum. We were making the exact type of calculations more than a year ago. Histogen had just released its phase 1/2a studies. Some of us speculated they would be done with their phase 2b in 2014 and by late 2015 it would be on the market in the US. But we are in the same exact phase we were a year and a half ago.

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        • rdawg
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 996

          #19
          Really wondering if theyll do a trial in which they use Histogen AS WELL AS Fin in one trial, the results could be much better for men!

          Either way, this stuff works at least to some extent and they badly need to get to the next phase, we need this stuff out ASAP.

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          • rdawg
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 996

            #20
            Originally posted by Thinning87
            You're asking the kind of questions that cannot be answered in a forum. We were making the exact type of calculations more than a year ago. Histogen had just released its phase 1/2a studies. Some of us speculated they would be done with their phase 2b in 2014 and by late 2015 it would be on the market in the US. But we are in the same exact phase we were a year and a half ago.
            still very possible in asia, but they need to start by December, I would hope november! it shouldnt take that long to find 50 bald participants or so. They already have the funding.

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            • Scientalk56
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 280

              #21
              First of all sry if i did insult any1

              Originally posted by k3nk3n
              Guys, also take into consideration that they only used norwood 3 vertex and above for their trails, so that 10% growth rate might just be not that effective.
              Well, it's an important thing to take into consideration..

              We have many many questions, i think it's time we should have an interview with dr. gail naughton... :|

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              • Scientalk56
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 280

                #22
                if 10 percent is the average increase, we're ****ed...

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                • hiilikeyourbeard
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 138

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Scientalk56
                  if 10 percent is the average increase, we're ****ed...
                  yeah that is awful

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                  • hairquest
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 16

                    #24
                    What concerns me it's the effectiveness of the treatment, we still know nothing about how effective he is and why there is no pictures of mens?
                    Sad to have so minor informations about Histogen or the others products who pretend growing hairs...

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1776

                      #25
                      Originally posted by hairquest
                      What concerns me it's the effectiveness of the treatment, we still know nothing about how effective he is and why there is no pictures of mens?
                      Sad to have so minor informations about Histogen or the others products who pretend growing hairs...

                      Most men will maintain on it.

                      That's what we need ATM tbh.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #26
                        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                        Most men will maintain on it.

                        That's what we need ATM tbh.
                        Tell that to an NW7 who doesn't have any hair to maintain.

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                        • yeahyeahyeah
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1776

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          Tell that to an NW7 who doesn't have any hair to maintain.
                          The sad reality is mate, is that the first generation of treatments will not help higher norwoods imo.

                          The best that they can hope for is advancements in surgical treatments (e.g. doubling)

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                          • drybone
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 867

                            #28
                            Can someone explain to me how this works? It rejuvenates the burnt out hair follicles?

                            What exactly does it do ?

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                            • simba
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 103

                              #29
                              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                              Most men will maintain on it.

                              That's what we need ATM tbh.
                              As someone who's a nw1.25 this is perfect for me, if this comes out in Asia in 2015 and I can maintain til then the mpb can literally stop being a worry with me

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                              • UK_
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2691

                                #30
                                Originally posted by rdawg
                                still very possible in asia, but they need to start by December, I would hope november! it shouldnt take that long to find 50 bald participants or so. They already have the funding.
                                I really dont understand why these things take so long... I mean why has it been a year since their last clinical trial? They could have used this year to atleast get some of Phase IIb started/completed.

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