Histogen Announcement

[brunobald]

I don't want to rule out histogen, but the evidence is stacking up that any gains to be made from their growth factors will only really have an effect on non dht effected follicules. Dr Nigam also applies more potent growth factor in much higher doses after fue. He reports that they work great for the transplanted hairs from the donor area but fail to produce any regrowth from miniturized follicules...

On a side note that new York stem cell project looks very impressive.

[hellouser]

So women's hair loss now has a new player in the battle. Great news, I will go and tell this news to my...umm...Oh well I don't know any women with hair loss problems so i'll keep this news to my self.

LOL, did you really expect mens health to get the same attention as womens?

[Thinning87]

Oh come on guys, they are ahead in the trials for men. Also reply so dropped trials on women and is now working on men only.

There is nothing histogen can do if their product works best on women. However, we have to keep in mind that A) they still have to do phase 2b in which they might improve the results with different and increased doses and B) this product is a great addition to any regime even at its current state and might yield great results if taken in the long run.

[Thinning87]

I don't want to rule out histogen, but the evidence is stacking up that any gains to be made from their growth factors will only really have an effect on non dht effected follicules. Dr Nigam also applies more potent growth factor in much higher doses after fue. He reports that they work great for the transplanted hairs from the donor area but fail to produce any regrowth from miniturized follicules...

On a side note that new York stem cell project looks very impressive.

Yeah some of the stuff that is going on is very impressive. They will hopefully have a better video of all presentations on YouTube at some point in the future

[TheSwingingGate]

Another way of looking at it, is that the women's hair loss is getting attention.
Thus, this could create competition for that market, and in turn, for the entire hair loss community.

If it is considered a universal problem (which I think it already is) then that puts more money towards the cure.

[lilpauly]

u will need a dht blocker to go lona with histogen to be honest.

[HairBane]

u will need a dht blocker to go lona with histogen to be honest.

Yeah you've got to consider this. The men on the trial obviously weren't allowed to use fin or anything, so the women's results WILL be better. We may just need to combine HSC with fin/CB/RU to get results as good as the women.

[Pentarou]

I'm pretty sure it's a given at this point in time that HSC is going to work best for men with a maintenance treatment, which in our case is something inhibiting DHT.

Incidentally, I don't think it a negative thing at all that women suffering from AGA (and other forms of hair loss) will have an additional treatment available for them, if HSC is successfully launched.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I'm pretty sure it's a given at this point in time that HSC is going to work best for men with a maintenance treatment, which in our case is something inhibiting DHT.

Incidentally, I don't think it a negative thing at all that women suffering from AGA (and other forms of hair loss) will have an additional treatment available for them, if HSC is successfully launched.

Its a maintainence treatment for men.

[scrumb]

I'm pretty sure it's a given at this point in time that HSC is going to work best for men with a maintenance treatment, which in our case is something inhibiting DHT.

Incidentally, I don't think it a negative thing at all that women suffering from AGA (and other forms of hair loss) will have an additional treatment available for them, if HSC is successfully launched.

Thank you. I come on here to keep up on treatment statuses for my girlfriend. It would be nice, just ONCE, to see a thread where a positive result is mentioned/shown for female hairloss... without pointless follow-ups complaining or implying that women don't need help as well and any progress for them should be tossed aside.

It's the equivalent of "taking your ball and going home". If you can't play, no one should be able to. Ugh.

Anyhow, thanks to the poster of the thumbnail, very encouraging result. Much improved over the original photo of that same patient at an earlier timeframe post injections.

[crafter]

is still a good 4 years from going to market and only a few will be able to administer it and it will cost a mortgage.

[Kiwi]

I don't want to rule out histogen, but the evidence is stacking up that any gains to be made from their growth factors will only really have an effect on non dht effected follicules. Dr Nigam also applies more potent growth factor in much higher doses after fue. He reports that they work great for the transplanted hairs from the donor area but fail to produce any regrowth from miniturized follicules...

On a side note that new York stem cell project looks very impressive.

Can you back up your evidence is stacking up with some factual evidence?

If not... You're speculating.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Can you back up your evidence is stacking up with some factual evidence?

If not... You're speculating.

He IS speculating.

IT is a well known fact that HSC are developing this for MPB and female pattern baldness.

[Kiwi]

u will need a dht blocker to go lona with histogen to be honest.

Can you back that up with some scientific reasoning. If not...

My own understanding (that is also just as much as a guess as your comment) is that you could either take dht blockers OR get regular Histogen treatments.

I would prefer multiple Histgen injrctions per year or however frequent they need to be.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Can you back that up with some scientific reasoning. If not...

My own understanding (that is also just as much as a guess as your comment) is that you could either take dht blockers OR get regular Histogen treatments.

I would prefer multiple Histgen injrctions per year or however frequent they need to be.

HSC only works on thinning hair, not slick bald scalp.

The whole point of HSC is to provide a safer alternative to fin/minox. This is written clearly on their web site:

Hair Growth Market
The hair loss market is both large and underserved, affecting over 40 million men and 21 million women in the United States alone, but with less than 7% of sufferers currently seek treatment due to the limitations of available options. HSC represents a potentially revolutionary new injectable treatment for the millions suffering from hair loss, offering benefits over daily-use, limited efficacy prescription products as well as invasive surgical treatments.

http://www.histogen.com/applications/hsc.htm

Why would they talk about men if this is targeted towards women only?

So yes, you are right.

They are getting hystrical because gail showed a result of a woman.