Crowdfund a position in Tsuji Labs?

[NeedHairASAP]

I suggest we

1. find out if Tsuji Labs could speed up their work with more funding

2. Ask if Tsuji's current investors would welcome more investment (possibly diluting their position, but also possibly speeding up their return and also lowering their risk per potential dollar of profit)

3. then crowdfund a "fund" of $1-5 million and get a stake in tsuji while speeding up a cure. Crowdfunders would own a position in the fund, which owns a position in Tsuji, so effectively we'd own a position in tsuji.


We would have to answer the first question, then the second, and also would have to wait for Title III of the jobs act to be put in place by the SEC in the US.

[Thinning87]

I don't know about ownership. Isn't this a state funded research project anyways?

The funding though is a great idea. We would have a lot to benefit from their discoveries even without ownership, and even outside of the hair loss world

[Artha]

Yes the Tsuji labs belong to the Tokyo University!

[NeedHairASAP]

ah, that's a shame in the sense of gaining ownership.

However, we could very easily donate funds that are earmarked for a specific study and contingent on it being started soon.

[Thinning87]

ah, that's a shame in the sense of gaining ownership.

However, we could very easily donate funds that are earmarked for a specific study and contingent on it being started soon.

Exactly

We can't hope to put any constraints on what they do though. It would have to be a donation with no strings attached.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

I would do this and I thought we should've done something like this with Aderans. Just so long as they release their product much sooner than 10 years. I can't afford to wait 10 years.

[NeedHairASAP]

Exactly

We can't hope to put any constraints on what they do though. It would have to be a donation with no strings attached.

I think we could could put some strings on it. It's not out of the ordinary for "donations" to be earmarked in this way.

[greatjob!]

We would have to answer the first question, then the second, and also would have to wait for Title III of the jobs act to be put in place by the SEC in the US.

The most important question is 3. All of these crowdfund threads pretend like raising millions of dollars is easy, and essentially a given.

[crafter]

anything that comes from this will be yearas away before hitting the market. Mice to human studies takes about 5 years, then you're looking at 10 years of clinical trials.

[hellouser]

The most important question is 3. All of these crowdfund threads pretend like raising millions of dollars is easy, and essentially a given.

Uh... never have I said an initiative like this is easy. I've been perfectly clear that crowdfunding requires determination and the support from all of us as a group effort. And given how things have gone with so many pessimistic naysayers, its likely NOT going to happen because most people on the forums (and probably elsewhere) would rather sit around and wait for a miracle to happen rather than take matters in their own hands.

I'm not going to pursue a project like this if the community is as lazy as it has been.

[greatjob!]

Uh... never have I said an initiative like this is easy. I've been perfectly clear that crowdfunding requires determination and the support from all of us as a group effort. And given how things have gone with so many pessimistic naysayers, its likely NOT going to happen because most people on the forums (and probably elsewhere) would rather sit around and wait for a miracle to happen rather than take matters in their own hands.

I'm not going to pursue a project like this if the community is as lazy as it has been.

I didn't refer to you, because I don't think I ever remember you saying it would be easy. I was referring to this and other posters in the other threads that seem to assume the money is a given and the hard part will be deciding who to fund and getting them to accept it. That's why I quoted the op's last sentence, because he all but assumed we could easily raise 1-5 million dollars like it was nothing.

[hellouser]

I didn't refer to you, because I don't think I ever remember you saying it would be easy. I was referring to this and other posters in the other threads that seem to assume the money is a given and the hard part will be deciding who to fund and getting them to accept it. That's why I quoted the op's last sentence, because he all but assumed we could easily raise 1-5 million dollars like it was nothing.

It definitely won't be easy. But it DEFINITELY is possible, to say it cant happen and toss the idea aside is ridiculous. We all know nobody gives a shit about our hair loss as society not only disregards it as a problem but also takes advantage of it to mock us and treat themselves to the privilege of considering it socially acceptable to ridicule balding men. That needs to change. A cure for the extreme effing stupidity needs to come just as much as a cure for baldness.

But only US OURSELVES can do more than the snail paced researchers. So many guys here on the forums are saying 'itll happen in 10 years'... yeah? Well, people were saying that 10+ years ago.. and I dont want to see another 10+ years of my life get crippled by society's shitheads crippling me because of hair loss.

Our strength is in numbers... the more of us there is, the easier the workload will be for everyone and the easier it will be to reach a greater audience to reach the 6 or 7 figure mark of money collected.

[greatjob!]

It definitely won't be easy. But it DEFINITELY is possible, to say it cant happen and toss the idea aside is ridiculous. We all know nobody gives a shit about our hair loss as society not only disregards it as a problem but also takes advantage of it to mock us and treat themselves to the privilege of considering it socially acceptable to ridicule balding men. That needs to change. A cure for the extreme effing stupidity needs to come just as much as a cure for baldness.

But only US OURSELVES can do more than the snail paced researchers. So many guys here on the forums are saying 'itll happen in 10 years'... yeah? Well, people were saying that 10+ years ago.. and I dont want to see another 10+ years of my life get crippled by society's shitheads crippling me because of hair loss.

Our strength is in numbers... the more of us there is, the easier the workload will be for everyone and the easier it will be to reach a greater audience to reach the 6 or 7 figure mark of money collected.

I never said it was ridiculous or impossible, I just think some people are acting like raising the money is the easy part, when it is the hard part. People don't part with their money very easily and when they do it is only to trusted sources that's all I'm saying. You understand that, but I think some people don't, they think money will rain down from the heavens.

[hellouser]

I never said it was ridiculous or impossible, I just think some people are acting like raising the money is the easy part, when it is the hard part. People don't part with their money very easily and when they do it is only to trusted sources that's all I'm saying. You understand that, but I think some people don't, they think money will rain down from the heavens.

No, I wasn't referring to you, in fact i dont even really know who i am referring to because I dont usually pay attention to names behind posts. I dont care who posts what, so im being pretty 'general'

[hiilikeyourbeard]

someone should call in the bald show one of these tuesday nights and pitch it to spencer. i bet joe would throw down a million. dude needs hair bad. god i need hair bad