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  • Supersixx
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 48

    #16
    Originally posted by walrus
    Read the thread and you will see people showing regrowth (not 'cured') who are dermarolling in conjunction with minoxidil 24 hours appart. Some people are trying it without. So tell me, what harm can come from that?
    Hair grows in stages , we all know. I take nothing, nada. Im like N6-7 and even i see little hairs grow here and there on my scalp. As for what they do, its on them. Just hope for the best. But hope doesn't rule out near and long term side effects. But ask yourself this, to date , I've seen nothing that reverses hairloss to point of satisfaction, but what if I'm actually hurting my chances of benefiting from future approved cures or worst long term negative effects by trying every and anything available @the moment.

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4419

      #17
      Originally posted by Supersixx
      Saying nobody gives a shit about hairloss is like saying no one gives a shit about billion dollars. Billion with a B.
      Out of the 7 billion people on this planet, you can count on ONE hand how many biotechs are actually working for a hair loss solution. Only two in the world are a cure (Lauster and Tsuji Labs). The rest (follica, replicel, histogen and maybe aderans if you want to really include them) are unknown as to what degree of hair loss reversal you'll see.

      So effecitively you have 5 groups out of 7 billion. You really think people care about hair loss when we've been the butt of all jokes for centuries? Not only are we socially crippled, demonized and laughed at but society has given itself the privilege to deem it ACCEPTABLE to treat us like shit.

      We'll find a solution to this ourselves faster than the snail paced biotechs. I still think we can re-create follica's simple solution with the addition of FGF-9 to serious wounding. Unless you have a solid knowledge that it DOES NOT in fact work, than you could have the slightest case, but unfortunately your post is nothing more than a rant. And I understand that, youre frustrated... so am I. We all are. But don't even dare for a second downplay the initiatives and progress by others to find a solution, YOURE NOT HELPING. Complacency in this forum should have no place and zero tolerance. If thats the case, you'd be better off by not logging in and so would we whereas everyone who's participated in this ultimately meaningless thread has wasted their time.

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      • Supersixx
        Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 48

        #18
        Originally posted by hellouser
        So will snake oil salesman. They're going to cry all the way to their piggy bank with whatever little money they'll have left in the end. I have no sympathy for them.
        I agree. But a snake oil salesman can ONLY be successful if his last victim kept there mouth shut. Nowadays, people get scammed and say, oh well, give me more.
        Last edited by Winston; 09-23-2013, 02:40 PM. Reason: Inappropriate comments in quote removed.

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        • greatjob!
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 909

          #19
          This thread seems like it will be productive...

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          • Supersixx
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 48

            #20
            Originally posted by hellouser
            Out of the 7 billion people on this planet, you can count on ONE hand how many biotechs are actually working for a hair loss solution. Only two in the world are a cure (Lauster and Tsuji Labs). The rest (follica, replicel, histogen and maybe aderans if you want to really include them) are unknown as to what degree of hair loss reversal you'll see.

            So effecitively you have 5 groups out of 7 billion. You really think people care about hair loss when we've been the butt of all jokes for centuries? Not only are we socially crippled, demonized and laughed at but society has given itself the privilege to deem it ACCEPTABLE to treat us like shit.

            We'll find a solution to this ourselves faster than the snail paced biotechs. I still think we can re-create follica's simple solution with the addition of FGF-9 to serious wounding. Unless you have a solid knowledge that it DOES NOT in fact work, than you could have the slightest case, but unfortunately your post is nothing more than a rant. And I understand that, youre frustrated... so am I. We all are. But don't even dare for a second downplay the initiatives and progress by others to find a solution, YOURE NOT HELPING. Complacency in this forum should have no place and zero tolerance. If thats the case, you'd be better off by not logging in and so would we whereas everyone who's participated in this ultimately meaningless thread has wasted their time.
            (deep breath)
            There are more Biotechs than you listed, working towards this. Being how advanced Lauster and Tokyo Labs (to name a couple) are, shows that its not easy task. @ one time heart/brain surgery wasn't easy. So your 5 groups out of 7 billion statement is very very ignorant.

            Yeah, society can be a duche @ times but hey, everybody gets ridiculed @ some time. Everybody have flaws. Nobodys perfect. If you have nothing going on for you that can negate your hairloss, then my advice would be to find something because dwelling on it just makes it worst and overtime you try another would-be cure and fail, you fail. And when you fail, it makes you more depressed and deeper in the hole you go. People would only treat you like crap if you let em.

            If you think or anyone on this forum think you are smarter than Follica Inc, and don't do research for Follica Inc, is a god damn fool. Dont think for a second they haven't thought of anything you guys came up with.

            Im not a ranter and im definitely not frustrated,but you are. I don't get frustrated with my baldness. I actually embrace it. I make the best of it. I shave it all off every other day for the last 10 years and women love it. Thats your problem. You lack swag. You're stressed because you think you don't look the way you should. You probably cry to sleep screaming why me, lord why me. Im not a cancer to this forum but you are. Better yet you are a liability to this forum and its members.

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            • greatjob!
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 909

              #21
              Originally posted by Supersixx
              . So your 5 groups out of 7 billion statement is very very ignorant.

              If you think or anyone on this forum think you are smarter than Follica Inc, and don't do research for Follica Inc, is a god damn fool.

              Im not a ranter and im definitely not frustrated,but you are.

              Thats your problem. You lack swag. You're stressed because you think you don't look the way you should. You probably cry to sleep screaming why me, lord why me. Im not a cancer to this forum but you are. Better yet you are a liability to this forum and its members.
              Grabs popcorn...

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #22
                Originally posted by Supersixx
                (deep breath)
                There are more Biotechs than you listed, working towards this. Being how advanced Lauster and Tokyo Labs (to name a couple) are, shows that its not easy task. @ one time heart/brain surgery wasn't easy. So your 5 groups out of 7 billion statement is very very ignorant.

                Yeah, society can be a duche @ times but hey, everybody gets ridiculed @ some time. Everybody have flaws. Nobodys perfect. If you have nothing going on for you that can negate your hairloss, then my advice would be to find something because dwelling on it just makes it worst and overtime you try another would-be cure and fail, you fail. And when you fail, it makes you more depressed and deeper in the hole you go. People would only treat you like crap if you let em.

                If you think or anyone on this forum think you are smarter than Follica Inc, and don't do research for Follica Inc, is a god damn fool. Dont think for a second they haven't thought of anything you guys came up with.

                Im not a ranter and im definitely not frustrated,but you are. I don't get frustrated with my baldness. I actually embrace it. I make the best of it. I shave it all off every other day for the last 10 years and women love it. Thats your problem. You lack swag. You're stressed because you think you don't look the way you should. You probably cry to sleep screaming why me, lord why me. Im not a cancer to this forum but you are. Better yet you are a liability to this forum and its members.
                There's too much wrong with your reply to make it worthy of a rebuttal. Its hypocrisy at an incredible level and lot of denial. I'll let you believe whatever you want, it has zero effect on me personally, I just hope your negativity doesn't spill onto others.

                Have a nice day.

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                • mnhair
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 25

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  I've been losing my hair for almost a decade, but have only been concerned about it for the last 2-3 years. No way in HELL am I going to throw in the towel and wait for someone to do something about our problem. Nobody gives a shit about our hair loss.
                  First, thanks for all the time you put into the site. I've been reading your posts for a while and you put out a lot of quality content. I looked at your hair in one of the trial threads, and it looked pretty thick. In terms of a cure, hasn't Dr. Cole gotten it somewhat there? He is supposed to have a scarless surgery with donor regeneration via acell? Isn't that enough for you to go forward with that?

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Supersixx
                    This thread is only useless to someone that really really thinks that a cure is gonna come out of a hairloss forums. Like you guys are gonna figure out what millions of dollars and countless scientist and Biotech companies couldn't. All on BBT. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah .....God bless you guys.
                    I dont understand what your major gripe is? Are we harming anyone by following people like Dr Nigam?

                    I mean we've already had an IAHRS doctor confirm that he is doing real work into donor regeneration and stem cell therapy for hair loss... why do we need to listen to you?

                    I dont know why you're trolling us with this nonsense.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      #25
                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      There's too much wrong with your reply to make it worthy of a rebuttal. Its hypocrisy at an incredible level and lot of denial. I'll let you believe whatever you want, it has zero effect on me personally, I just hope your negativity doesn't spill onto others.

                      Have a nice day.
                      1+

                      Everyone just ignore the troll, if you can.

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                      • burtandernie
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1563

                        #26
                        Yeah basically. With the amount of time it takes for stuff to finally come out legit you would be bald by then if you do something earlier so if propecia doesnt work for you then your basically sol right now.
                        I agree though lazer helmets, derma rolling, and some of the experimental stuff seems pretty desperate and probably dangerous to do long term.

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                        • burtandernie
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1563

                          #27
                          Hair loss often runs deeper then just for girls but lots of guys are too shallow or simple minded to understand that. Guys without the problem like Bill gates just mock it when really most people are most concerned with cosmetic problems even people in their death bed are concerned with how they look its human nature.

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                          • garethbale
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 603

                            #28
                            Originally posted by burtandernie
                            Hair loss often runs deeper then just for girls but lots of guys are too shallow or simple minded to understand that. Guys without the problem like Bill gates just mock it when really most people are most concerned with cosmetic problems even people in their death bed are concerned with how they look its human nature.
                            what on earth are you going on about ?

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                            • LevonHelms
                              Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 62

                              #29
                              Pffft. That was a waste of 5 minutes.

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                              • Conpecia
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 904

                                #30
                                Originally posted by LevonHelms
                                Pffft. That was a waste of 5 minutes.
                                agreed.

                                happy that dudes like OP are bald, at least there's some justice in this ****ed up world

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