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  • SpacemanSpiff
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 3

    How close are we? Really?

    Hello. I am new. So sorry for the stupid question but I don't even know the name of any drug/treatment and you all seem to be very well informed.

    As someone completely ignorant of this area all my expose is via the press with headlines like 'cure in 2 years' which seem to go by without said cure. Are all these bogus? Is there a clear path to a cure but it's slow going or is it a case of we don't know where a cure would come from?

    Is it still just a case of using that shampoo, regaine, or has it moved beyond that?

    Thanks
  • brunobald
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 172

    #2
    Is it still just a case of using that shampoo, regaine, or has it moved beyond that?
    Pretty much, lol, that and finasteride. Not a lot else out there man, most of everything else released has turned out to be duds or at best just as good with similer sides.

    There are however plenty of potential treatment in the furture. Check out donor regeneration and CB-03-01 for starters and go from there.

    I think 5 years may actually be realistic for something new.

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    • SpacemanSpiff
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 3

      #3
      Originally posted by brunobald
      Pretty much, lol, that and finasteride. Not a lot else out there man, most of everything else released has turned out to be duds or at best just as good with similer sides.

      There are however plenty of potential treatment in the furture. Check out donor regeneration and CB-03-01 for starters and go from there.

      I think 5 years may actually be realistic for something new.
      Is regaine a scam or does it actually work? It seems a lot of men struggle with hairloss so my assumption is that it's effectiveness is minimum at best.

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      • DesperateOne
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 289

        #4
        This question has been pounded so many times, it's not even funny.
        Go and read on the American hairloss association.

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        • VictimOfDHT
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 748

          #5
          I think Regaine is the UK version of Rogaine. Isn't it? It's Minoxidil. So it isn't a scam. But Minoxidil doesn't do wonders for many.

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          • Scientalk56
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 282

            #6
            No one knows. not even the scientists working on a treatment...

            btw, we are not taking about a cure, but about a better treatment, that's it... a cure is many years away......a treatment maybe less..

            when a treatment will be released, i will wake you up

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            • Tomb10
              Member
              • May 2013
              • 34

              #7
              The real cure will be hair cloning.
              But we can only hope that tsuji labs will give us full heads of hair in about 10 years..

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              • brunobald
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 172

                #8
                Horse in the race..

                Follica - Wounding the skin and forming new skin with follicles
                Nigam/Gho - Multiplying via splitting follicles and replanting "doubling"
                Cosmo - Topical med like finasteride with no sides
                Cell Theropy - Using stem cells to rejuvinate or grow new follicles
                Hair multiplication -Growing hairs in lab for transplant, unlimited donor.
                Histogen - Similer to cell theropy but less risky?

                Step one would be for any one of the contenders to prove a NW7 to NW1 conversion with good density and equal quailty hair to the rest of the scalp is possible.

                Any steps after that would be to do with cost, availabilty and safety.

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                • clandestine
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2005

                  #9
                  Guys, the answer he's looking for:

                  We don't know.

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                  • Desmond84
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 987

                    #10
                    I think this is a safe estimate to make assuming all listed treatments come to fruition:

                    2013-2016: Finasteride & Minoxidil

                    2017-2020: CB-03-01, Histogen's HSC, Replicel, Follica

                    2021-2025: Tsuji Lab (True Hair multiplication)

                    2025 & Beyond: Luminescent hair

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2744

                      #11
                      No this is how the future looks Desmond:

                      2013-2016: "cure is five years away".

                      2017-2020: "cure is five years away".

                      2021-2025: "cure is five years away".

                      2025 & Beyond: "cure is five years away".

                      Conquered solar system: "cure is five years away".

                      Interstellar travel is commonplace: "cure is five years away".

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                      • Desmond84
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 987

                        #12
                        Uh brother, why so upset man! Things will work out...trust me! Did you try the bi-weekly fin regimen? UK_ halt your hairloss for a few years till we get our hands on CB, then we're good till the real cure comes out!

                        You have to give it a shot man...I hate to see you so miserable!

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                        • UK_
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2744

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Desmond84
                          Uh brother, why so upset man! Things will work out...trust me! Did you try the bi-weekly fin regimen? UK_ halt your hairloss for a few years till we get our hands on CB, then we're good till the real cure comes out!

                          You have to give it a shot man...I hate to see you so miserable!
                          I'm on 0.25mg every two weeks... I dont even think this is remotely effective... but it's the only way I can avoid SOME of the side effects.

                          Yeah, even at this amount I get sides (testicular pain, low sex drive etc).

                          **** this shit.

                          Desmond are you on Minox?

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                          • The Dark Knight
                            Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 38

                            #14
                            Originally posted by UK_
                            No this is how the future looks Desmond:

                            2013-2016: "cure is five years away".

                            2017-2020: "cure is five years away".

                            2021-2025: "cure is five years away".

                            2025 & Beyond: "cure is five years away".

                            Conquered solar system: "cure is five years away".

                            Interstellar travel is commonplace: "cure is five years away".
                            Oh God, I can't stop laughing, that would certainly explain captain Picard

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                            • Desmond84
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 987

                              #15
                              Originally posted by UK_
                              I'm on 0.25mg every two weeks... I dont even think this is remotely effective... but it's the only way I can avoid SOME of the side effects.

                              Yeah, even at this amount I get sides (testicular pain, low sex drive etc).

                              **** this shit.

                              Desmond are you on Minox?
                              Are you? That is great news man Keep at it...believe me. It will definitely halt your hairloss. The first 6 months is different shed cycles! You dont know what is happening. Everyday is a roller coaster and then voila...all hairloss stops and you notice tiny bit og regrowth

                              I'm only on fin and Nizoral twice weekly...thats it!

                              Don't use Minox yet...give fin 12 months before adding something else

                              EDIT: I just realised you wrote every 2 weeks! That is very low indeed! That's OK though...work ur way up slowly....ur libido should improve over time

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