Dr Nigam's rebutt to critics

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  • Arashi
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    This is what Wesley's currently on:

    - minox 5% kirkland
    - ru58841
    - cb
    - ahkcu
    - redken scalp relief
    - alpecin c1 cafeine
    - dutasteride (avodart)
    - kelp & visolie caps
    - msm 5000mg / biotine / silicium
    - 1x day 5min electrical acupuncture
    - 3x week laserhelmet 200 diodes 900mw

    And since today also on growthfactors + dermarolling. I admire this guy for doing all this, but really, as a test it's totally unsuitable, even if we'd have good photo's (which we have not).

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by LMS
    Honestly I think we'll know whats up thanks to Tom/Wesley/Boldy... even if we don't get conclusive evidence
    How ? I got 1600 HST grafts at HASCI and really, I don't have any idea if I had regrowth or not. Without good photo's it's just impossible to tell.

    BTW, Wesley's case is not only impossible to analyse because they didn't shave recipient, he's also experimenting with pretty much every med there is and since today he's starting to experiment with growth factors (with dermarolling). So even if we'd have good photo's, his case would be quite unreliable as proof of Nigam's procedure.

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  • LMS
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    I honestly still have a lot of hope in Nigams, and the fact that Boldy was impressed by Nigams and his clinic only adds to my faith haha

    Honestly I think we'll know whats up thanks to Tom/Wesley/Boldy... even if we don't get conclusive evidence

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  • Arashi
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    Hey Gaz ! Check out the Gho section

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  • gc83uk
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    Originally posted by veca
    We'll see ... we waited a few more months ... if he proves himself, by the end of the year ... then you can considered him fraud
    How exactly is he going to do this?

    It takes at a good few months to prove a case from pre op photos to seeing regrowth. We're practically in September! Boldy from what I understand had another procedure (not doubling), so that only leaves Tom who we can analyse.

    The pre-op photos of Toms case imho aren't good enough. They were so bad that even Nigams team couldn't locate the same area on the follow-up set of photos, which he admitted he analysed the wrong area. Tough task!

    Also please stop with the it's because he's Indian that he gets a hard time stuff. That just pisses people off into making them sound racist. Nobody cares where he is from. He can be from the moon for all I care.

    As Arashi said, we need a slick NW6 / NW7 to prove it beyond doubt. It's not up to Arashi to find one and fly him to India! Dr Nigam should easily be able to find a suitable candidate.

    Seeing as your talking with Dr Nigam regularly, why don't you ask him why he hasn't ever operated on a NW7 or if perhaps he can consider finding a NW7 candidate? This is all we are asking for.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by veca
    if he proves himself, by the end of the year ...
    He can't. All of the cases that we've currently seen are not analyzable. Well I haven't seen Boldy photo's, since he hasn't posted them here, but I don't think his case is different from Tom's or Wesley's. So even if Nigams would start a new case tomorrow, that would mean that it wouldn't be at least till 2014 till we can see some results. And by 2014 he'll say he has a new technology so nobody is interested in the old cases anymore (like nobody really seemed to care here that OBI's HM case failed, cause well, we've got 3D HM now). This has been going on for a year and will go on like this. Till people stop visiting his clinic, by then he'll just sell or close it. I guess that what he's done with his weight clinic. He'll then start a new venture.

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  • veca
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    We'll see ... we waited a few more months ... if he proves himself, by the end of the year ... then you can considered him fraud

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  • greatjob!
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    Originally posted by veca
    These products are on the market for 100 years. Claim to have a "cure" is a serious thing that can ruin your career. If he does not prove it, can say goodbye to his career, he puts his clinic, his job and career in a big risk ... taht is why I trust him...
    There are thousands of hack job butcher doctors that have ruined people's lives and continue to practice for decades and make tons of money. I hope Nigam is the real deal, but your logic is flawed and naive.

    There is literally not one single good reason why Dr. Nigam doesn't have mountains of photographic evidence to back up his claims, at the very least he should have hundreds of photos from when he was performing traditional hair transplants. If he is for real he made a huge mistake coming on the forums before he was ready and had all of his ducks in a row. I mean come on, if I came on the forum said I was a doctor I was curing baldness and the only proof I had was obviously doctored photographs I would be laughed off the board, so why should it be any different for Dr. Nigam?

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  • veca
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    Originally posted by greatjob!
    By your logic then scams and snake oil would not exist. And also there are a lot of posts by dissatisfied patients of Dr. Nigam, yeahyeahyeah posted a bunch of them on the other thread
    These products are on the market for 100 years. Claim to have a "cure" is a serious thing that can ruin your career. If he does not prove it, can say goodbye to his career, he puts his clinic, his job and career in a big risk ... taht is why I trust him...

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  • greatjob!
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    Originally posted by veca
    It can attract and deceive a few people ... but the whole year to be active in the forum, fake pictures and evidence ... to attract some patients ... does not make sense, does it? Well, some would by now went public with the story that he cheated
    By your logic then scams and snake oil would not exist. And also there are a lot of posts by dissatisfied patients of Dr. Nigam, yeahyeahyeah posted a bunch of them on the other thread

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  • veca
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    It can attract and deceive a few people ... but the whole year to be active in the forum, fake pictures and evidence ... to attract some patients ... does not make sense, does it? Well, some would by now went public with the story that he cheated

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by veca
    I agree with you guys that photos ar not good, but let's assume that Dr. Nigam cheats .... just tell me, what benefits does he get?
    Money.

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  • walrus
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  • greatjob!
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    Originally posted by veca
    I agree with you guys that photos ar not good, but let's assume that Dr. Nigam cheats .... just tell me, what benefits does he get?
    Uh...he get's people to give him money....

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  • veca
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    I agree with you guys that photos ar not good, but let's assume that Dr. Nigam cheats .... just tell me, what benefits does he get?

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