Iontophoresis device for CB

[brunobald]

This is a thread to disscuss potential iontophoresis devices for the administration of CB.

For anyone who does not know about these devices here is a nice youtube video which explains a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuZ6xP6DJHU

[brunobald]

I reckonmend reading this pdf. http://www.scipharm.at/download.asp?id=1113

[hellouser]

The great thing about Iontophoresis, at least the claims from Cosmo's results, is that it was used only ONCE a week with their incredible results. I think most of us would be more than happy with an application that infrequent despite the learning curve and potentially tedious use.

This should be a #1 priority for all of us; iontophoresis or a solid vehicle for CB.

[mari0s]

i've done some research lately on iontophoresis and found that in my country they already use it on scalp for prp, they even rent a machine for home usage but i think it's expensive . Curiosly is only done in Milan which is the same city of Cosmo headquarters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMrLI2dE4YI (from 1.49 you can see the system)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGKYB7FFEM

sorry guys both links are only in italian

[mari0s]

BTW Cosmo didn't use iontophoresis but a slight different tech called l'Hydroelectrophoresis with a machine called Hydrofor, it's selled at 6.500-10.000€

[brunobald]

Wow thats a trippy product video reminds me of a cross between the clockwork orange film and an episode of house.

It does look complicated and possibly unnecessarly so. Does that control box need an lcd screen from what I have read so far it only outputs a voltage and current? Im sure this could be make a lot cheaper.

[brunobald]

http://www.dearappresentanze.it/hydrofor/hydrofor.php

Is this the machine they used Mario?

[mari0s]

http://www.dearappresentanze.it/hydrofor/hydrofor.php

Is this the machine they used Mario?

yep in their 2010 report they clearly state they used Hydroelectrophoresis, Hydrofor is the only machine with that tecnology
it's quite common here but it's used for cellulite treatments

[moore]

Wow

Mari0s, looks like a great advance.
Wonder what they think about mixing CB and PRP.
And also, in the video they talk about regenerating new follicles. Is this substantiated?

[mari0s]

Mari0s, looks like a great advance.
Wonder what they think about mixing CB and PRP.
And also, in the video they talk about regenerating new follicles. Is this substantiated?

i have not evidence on follicular regenerationsbut conventional mesoterapy prp is doing using needles, i don't know if iontophoresis would be more effective (less painful for sure)

forget about CB with them is out of question

[hellouser]

yep in their 2010 report they clearly state they used Hydroelectrophoresis, Hydrofor is the only machine with that tecnology
it's quite common here but it's used for cellulite treatments

Find a spa that has one and tell them you want to use your own substance. Pay them under the table at the same time.

[mari0s]

Find a spa that has one and tell them you want to use your own substance. Pay them under the table at the same time.

i don't know where you live but here is illegal not to mention that you won't find a single doctor willing to administrate sperimental drugs on his patients

[hellouser]

i don't know where you live but here is illegal not to mention that you won't find a single doctor willing to administrate sperimental drugs on his patients

Canada, but I have a friend that owns a spa. Doubt she has an ionto device though.

[deuce]

Is this the only way to get CB to work or can we use a chemical vehicle. I am not big into science and medicine so I do not really know. IS this way even safe. WHo would know how and what to do? This is depressing. I wish one of us use to work for cosmo and would know the whole process.

[Julian P]

Is this the only way to get CB to work or can we use a chemical vehicle. I am not big into science and medicine so I do not really know. IS this way even safe. WHo would know how and what to do? This is depressing. I wish one of us use to work for cosmo and would know the whole process.

Adam k, the chemist in the other thread, seems pretty confident that some kind of chemical vehicle will do, but he's still working on it.