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  • greatjob!
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 909

    Originally posted by hiilikeyourbeard
    please stay on topic
    yes sir master sir

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    • mari0s
      Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 64

      Originally posted by greatjob!
      Uh i think it was a stupid idea, but I fail to see how his idea was racist.
      since Cosmo is an italian company they must be corruptible

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      • mari0s
        Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 64

        Originally posted by adam k

        thus being devoid of systemic antiandrogenic effects. I'm not sure (so somebody correct me if I'm wrong) but I think the drug makes its way through the skin and those that reach the receptors in the active form bind and block DHT from binding.
        Hi Adam i've seen you have not consider the idea to use transcutol since it's used from various dermatologists as carrier in a similar steroid (for function not as molecular structure) with a similar mw and p log as Cyproterone acetate. Can i ask you why?

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        • greatjob!
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 909

          Originally posted by mari0s
          since Cosmo is an italian company they must be corruptible
          That's a pretty big assumption to make considering he made no mention of race. I didn't even know they were an Italian company and I'm sure their company does not only employ Italians. You should probably wait until someone says something racist before calling them racist, just saying.

          Now I will go back on topic so I don't upset hiilikeyourbeard, the forum police

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            Originally posted by GuyFromUK
            I am sure a little brown envelope with a thousand dollars cash in would be enough to encourage someone working there to tell us everything we need to know.
            Sure. People risk their good paying job and prison all the time for $1000.

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            • Californication
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 134

              For those of you on the other forums, how many people would you estimate are trialing CB right now with PG/ethanol or PG/oleyl? Just want to know whether this stuff is at least being tested by some people already and that we'll at least have some knowledge of what doesn't work sometime this year/early next year perhaps.

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              • adam k
                Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 78

                Originally posted by Californication
                For those of you on the other forums, how many people would you estimate are trialing CB right now with PG/ethanol or PG/oleyl? Just want to know whether this stuff is at least being tested by some people already and that we'll at least have some knowledge of what doesn't work sometime this year/early next year perhaps.
                I have to say in terms of interesting information and threads on experimentals it is miles ahead of anywhere else. After browsing for a while it seems like it is still early days and also form III has not been around for long. There are quite a few educated guys in Science in that place too.

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                • UK_
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2691

                  Hi Adam, is it possible for you to test the content of Iron Dragon CB for purity?

                  This would be so useful for us all...

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by UK_
                    Hi Adam, is it possible for you to test the content of Iron Dragon CB for purity?

                    This would be so useful for us all...
                    Oh, that would be good!

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                    • Desmond84
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 987

                      Hey guys, I've got some good news for all of those who are desperately waiting on CB:

                      I don't know if you are following the recent news regarding withdrawal of some contraceptive pills from the market, particularly those with anti-androgenic properties which were being used for the treatment of acne vulgaris. These events unfolded following recent reports of fatalities in Europe due to clotting and cardiac ischaemic attacks associated with anti-androgenic effects of these pills! The contraceptive pills being investigated are Yasmin, Yaz, and Dianne!!!

                      As of today, oral contraceptive anti-androgens are being reviewed in terms of benefit vs risks in the treatment of acne vulgaris in female patients!

                      Now, what this means is that all potential competition for CB-03-01 is being wiped out! Cosmo pharmaceuticals will have the entire market share to themselves by having a topical anti-androgen with no potential systemic activity.

                      You can be more than certain that the recent events will be a huge boost for Cosmo to release their product onto the market ASAP to maximise their profits and once that happens we should definitely have its MPB version available within 2 years of its acne formula.

                      Good news is rare these days Let's make the most of it

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                      • adam k
                        Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 78

                        Originally posted by UK_
                        Hi Adam, is it possible for you to test the content of Iron Dragon CB for purity?

                        This would be so useful for us all...
                        I could have done that very easily a year ago when I was doing my Masters as I had access to them with no one looking over my shoulder. However I got caught running a 1HNMR test on some anabolic steroids and had an awkward conversation with the lab supervisor.

                        Now my PhD is in computational chemistry and I am in a different research centre so it would be harder for me to do however I will ask a few of my friends in organic chemistry if they could do this for me.

                        Originally posted by Desmond84
                        Hey guys, I've got some good news for all of those who are desperately waiting on CB:
                        Desmond that is great news I hope that is what happens.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by Desmond84
                          Hey guys, I've got some good news for all of those who are desperately waiting on CB:

                          I don't know if you are following the recent news regarding withdrawal of some contraceptive pills from the market, particularly those with anti-androgenic properties which were being used for the treatment of acne vulgaris. These events unfolded following recent reports of fatalities in Europe due to clotting and cardiac ischaemic attacks associated with anti-androgenic effects of these pills! The contraceptive pills being investigated are Yasmin, Yaz, and Dianne!!!

                          As of today, oral contraceptive anti-androgens are being reviewed in terms of benefit vs risks in the treatment of acne vulgaris in female patients!

                          Now, what this means is that all potential competition for CB-03-01 is being wiped out! Cosmo pharmaceuticals will have the entire market share to themselves by having a topical anti-androgen with no potential systemic activity.

                          You can be more than certain that the recent events will be a huge boost for Cosmo to release their product onto the market ASAP to maximise their profits and once that happens we should definitely have its MPB version available within 2 years of its acne formula.

                          Good news is rare these days Let's make the most of it

                          That should be followed up by health ministry being lenient on their trials and push through their product in a speed manner if others can't get the benefit of an anti-androgen. What are those in need supposed to do now? Wait forever as if its the FDA?

                          Something needs to give, we're all losing ground here and time is against us. Eventually we're going to die and complete a life where society has GIMPED us all throughout for both being bald as well as trying to fight baldness.

                          Anyways, thanks for the update Desmond.

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            Originally posted by adam k
                            I could have done that very easily a year ago when I was doing my Masters as I had access to them with no one looking over my shoulder. However I got caught running a 1HNMR test on some anabolic steroids and had an awkward conversation with the lab supervisor.
                            Is it really possible to check for purity with a dissolved compound? Iron Dragon ships their CB premixed in ethanol/pg.

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                            • UK_
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2691

                              Originally posted by Desmond84
                              Hey guys, I've got some good news for all of those who are desperately waiting on CB:

                              I don't know if you are following the recent news regarding withdrawal of some contraceptive pills from the market, particularly those with anti-androgenic properties which were being used for the treatment of acne vulgaris. These events unfolded following recent reports of fatalities in Europe due to clotting and cardiac ischaemic attacks associated with anti-androgenic effects of these pills! The contraceptive pills being investigated are Yasmin, Yaz, and Dianne!!!

                              As of today, oral contraceptive anti-androgens are being reviewed in terms of benefit vs risks in the treatment of acne vulgaris in female patients!

                              Now, what this means is that all potential competition for CB-03-01 is being wiped out! Cosmo pharmaceuticals will have the entire market share to themselves by having a topical anti-androgen with no potential systemic activity.

                              You can be more than certain that the recent events will be a huge boost for Cosmo to release their product onto the market ASAP to maximise their profits and once that happens we should definitely have its MPB version available within 2 years of its acne formula.

                              Good news is rare these days Let's make the most of it

                              This post has just made me more paranoid about CB and anti-androgens.



                              Also, is that Ken Washenik in the gif carrying the keytar?

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                              • Westonci
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 251

                                Lets say in the absolute best case scenario, we find the right vehicle for delivering CB-03-01.

                                And lets say it actually does work in stopping hair loss.

                                What will this mean?

                                Will their be a huge horde of balding guys buying CB-03-01 from kane or these shops. And if so..........
                                • Will there be a supply and demand issue, since its probably not being mass produced?
                                • Will Cosmo try and sue Kane, and try and stop them from selling CB-03-01?

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