Lots Of Ideas on the Forum: So Crowdfund

[HairBane]

Is Histogen still a viable treatment compared with Replicel, Follica etc? I thought their recent trial results disappointed? If it still looks decent/compoundable I'd be happy to donate to a kickstarter. I think it would get a lot of interest - title it 'A cure for balding' and you'll get millions.

[Californication]

Yeah, I too favor supporting an existing company even if its not the total cure because 1) actually getting something to market is huge 2) it, if successful, encourages competition.

Getting a professional with experience with the legislation on crowdfunding is a great start. Hellouser, have you and axel ironed out any details yet or come up with a game plan, lets try to get this moving as there seems to be at least 5-10 people in this thread willing to help in whatever way they can.

[hellouser]

1) Because they would be closer to market than starting a whole new venture from scratch.

2) They already have the business model in place.

3) They already have 2 successful clinical trials and a patent victory over a multinational corporation.

4) Because the owner of the company has stated herself that additional funds via a kickstarter would speed up the process of bringing the product to the market.

5) It's common sense to fund the strongest player in the game.

Also... your assumption that "money is never a problem" is laughable, Gail Naughton was running Histogen off her credit cards in 2009, so to assume that these small bio-tech start-ups have a limitless access to money is the most idiotic assumption anyone could make.

It's actually quite DANGEROUS to make that assumption because you're effectively convincing people NOT to help Histogen by perpetuating a lie about their supposed access to finance.

Truth.

And thank you

[UK_]

crowd funding for a hair loss cure will run into double digit millions of dollars. and if you were to raise such money, why give it to histogen or any other company for that matter. all they would do is f the money up like in the past. these guys have access to millionaires and billionaires so funding is never a problem ...clearly, they just don't have anything that would make it worth funding. instead of trying to solve the problem on a forum (lol) , why not bring awareness to the situation through marketing. billboards , ads etc. put the industry on blast and spark up the conversation. let the public put the pressure on pharmaceutical companies to do better...remind them of the billions to be made. And then you would see a change. Trust me, they're very very rich people out there that would want in.

1) Because they would be closer to market than starting a whole new venture from scratch.

2) They already have the business model in place.

3) They already have 2 successful clinical trials and a patent victory over a multinational corporation.

4) Because the owner of the company has stated herself that additional funds via a kickstarter would speed up the process of bringing the product to the market.

5) It's common sense to fund the strongest player in the game.

Also... your assumption that "money is never a problem" is laughable, Gail Naughton was running Histogen off her credit cards in 2009, so to assume that these small bio-tech start-ups have a limitless access to money is the most idiotic assumption anyone could make.

It's actually quite DANGEROUS to make that assumption because you're effectively convincing people NOT to help Histogen by perpetuating a lie about their supposed access to finance.

Regarding your final statement@ "trust me" < lol - there are also "very rich" people who would like a cancer cure, does that mean bio-tech companies that are working on cancer treatments have an endless supply of cash?

[hellouser]

crowd funding for a hair loss cure will run into double digit millions of dollars. and if you were to raise such money, why give it to histogen or any other company for that matter. all they would do is f the money up like in the past. these guys have access to millionaires and billionaires so funding is never a problem ...clearly, they just don't have anything that would make it worth funding. instead of trying to solve the problem on a forum (lol) , why not bring awareness to the situation through marketing. billboards , ads etc. put the industry on blast and spark up the conversation. let the public put the pressure on pharmaceutical companies to do better...remind them of the billions to be made. And then you would see a change. Trust me, they're very very rich people out there that would want in.

A grassroots initiative has to start somewhere, thus the forum being the place where all of us can work together to move things forward with a real campaign. I've mentioned doing this many months ago to start a campaign outside of the forum, but my suggestions fell on deaf ears. Although I think its pretty obvious though that we're working on a separate platform to roll out the campaign.

[Supersixx]

crowd funding for a hair loss cure will run into double digit millions of dollars. and if you were to raise such money, why give it to histogen or any other company for that matter. all they would do is f the money up like in the past. these guys have access to millionaires and billionaires so funding is never a problem ...clearly, they just don't have anything that would make it worth funding. instead of trying to solve the problem on a forum (lol) , why not bring awareness to the situation through marketing. billboards , ads etc. put the industry on blast and spark up the conversation. let the public put the pressure on pharmaceutical companies to do better...remind them of the billions to be made. And then you would see a change. Trust me, they're very very rich people out there that would want in.

[garethbale]

Because Histogen isn't taking 'donations' from the public and the crowdfunding initiative isn't a whole new project to compete against Histogen.

are you sure about that?

I thought they would accept funding. Are they not allowed to?

[hellouser]

If we do get this up and running I would rather donate to an already established company, such as Histogen. Why start from scratch when there is already companies working on this?

Because Histogen isn't taking 'donations' from the public and the crowdfunding initiative isn't a whole new project to compete against Histogen.

[garethbale]

If we do get this up and running I would rather donate to an already established company, such as Histogen. Why start from scratch when there is already companies working on this?

[NeedHairASAP]

I wasn't trying to pick holes. I was just giving my two cents. I'm a startup consultant.

I think:

1. will you be a third party fund raiser for histogen?

2. an actual pharma startup?

What will you test?

Can you Legally? (patented?)

Where will you? (I suggest outsourcing to a testing company, that will run your tests for a small fee)

[UK_]

I dont know much about science or contributing to research but I would be more than delighted to donate to a project started and conducted by some of the regular names on this forum... even if it's raising funds for the likes of Histogen or whatever.

[hellouser]

Seems like everyone has an opinion but nobody wants to do anything positive just pick holes and point out why this project is doomed.

Downward slopes are easier to overcome. People are lazy.

[brunobald]

I was referring to the 2 or 3 posters acting like the first step was thinking of a catch name. Which is lol.

Ticking boxes man thats all it is, we need a name for webdomains and identity. We could have bashed that out pretty quickly. Axel and Hellouser have prob aready got it sorted but I was intrested in seeing who would chip in and contribute. Seems like everyone has an opinion but nobody wants to do anything positive just pick holes and point out why this project is doomed.

[NeedHairASAP]

Youre more than welcome to continue adding in your 2 or 2 million cents. Preferably 2 billion actually. If you think all were doing is a brainstorm session for a name, youre way off. Me and axel have been talking about the strategy all along and while its been mostly just the two of us, I would greatly appreciate it if everyone in the hair loss community were involved and pitched in their ideas. I don't want to cut any corners nor do I want to overlook *anything* that might come up working against us.

Strength in numbers.

I dont know anything about trials or science. Otherwise, I'd like to help.

I was referring to the 2 or 3 posters acting like the first step was thinking of a catch name. Which is lol.

I know you guys have been working on it past that, hopefully.

I suggest you look into a securities lawyer or CPA up to date on crowdfunding... maybe even read the current legislation.

Otherwise, I suggest you guys get a team of real researchers together, at least somebody knowledgeable in the protocol. I don't know your backgrounds, maybe this is you two.

[hellouser]

At this point, there is nothing to invest in. Whoever is currently running this needs a plan...not a brainstorm session for the name of the company/fund lol.

Youre more than welcome to continue adding in your 2 or 2 million cents. Preferably 2 billion actually. If you think all were doing is a brainstorm session for a name, youre way off. Me and axel have been talking about the strategy all along and while its been mostly just the two of us, I would greatly appreciate it if everyone in the hair loss community were involved and pitched in their ideas. I don't want to cut any corners nor do I want to overlook *anything* that might come up working against us.

Strength in numbers.