Bio start ups - histogen, follica, Aderans, replicel etc scams?

[bigentries]

They have cloned Animals; sent men to the moon; and yet...they can't cure baldness.

What the **** is the world coming too?

They have cloned SOME animals, and the process is usually extremely unreliable. Sending men to the moon is easy compared to getting knowledge of the human body.

Also, add the ethical dilemmas and you understand why medical science is so slow

[greatjob!]

This forum is really starting to sound like a broken record and become very pointless.

[UK_]

This forum is really starting to sound like a broken record and become very pointless.

Yup, if the cutting edge treatments all fail I'm leaving and so will many others.

[UK_]

They have cloned SOME animals, and the process is usually extremely unreliable. Sending men to the moon is easy compared to getting knowledge of the human body.

Also, add the ethical dilemmas and you understand why medical science is so slow

recently read a news article about them growing a human ear in the lab.

Still no sign of any lab grown follicles though.

[hellouser]

recently read a news article about them growing a human ear in the lab.

Still no sign of any lab grown follicles though.

That ear is useless if you can't hear.

Besides, Dr. Roland Lauster already grew follicles in a petri dish.

[greatjob!]

That ear is useless if you can't hear.

Not if your ear was burned off in a fire or something

[Thinning87]

Aderans have had 10 years worth of investment, and despite that they could not release a product.

This raises eyebrows, why would a company that has heavily invested on something that can earn billions pull out without second thoughts?

Talk about cutting your losses.

Surely if they were growing hair, any tom, dick and harry can see it has the potential to make a return of investment.

Which brings me to the point:

Is it because -

1) Aderans had below/par mediocre results at best?

and is this now reflected by the fact that all of these companies have trouble getting investors.

Did Ken bend the truth to Spencer on his show?

So here is the question to you guys. Do you think these bio start ups are all scams, run by charlatans who after obtaining the investors money pocket most of it. After which they simply drift into the sunset once the investor(s) have clocked on they are full of it?

I can't help but think ken washenik is a charlatan; even if he had unlimited funds he probably would never get the product to a releasable state.

As for the other companies, I don't feel optimistic. Before Aderans you had Intercytex.

Thoughts.

What a bunch of bullshit. If you're so depressed about the way you look you should try to something positive instead of spreading this dumb shit online.

You don't know if Washenik was in bad faith and only because they may not have been able to come to market it doesn't mean he was scamming investors.

Your post is illogical. You're clearly a frustrated idiot. Hair loss sucks and we all know it but try to act like a decent person instead of writing these depressing rants about how everyone is a scammer and nothing will ever happen. ******

[greatjob!]

If you're so depressed about the way you look
Hair loss sucks and we all know it but try to act like a decent person instead of writing these depressing rants

He has a full head of hair...

[DepressedByHairLoss]

They have cloned Animals; sent men to the moon; and yet...they can't cure baldness.

What the **** is the world coming too?

I totally agree. But I really don't think that most of the people involved in the hair loss industry are interested in curing hair loss. Otherwise, we'd have more than a handful of companies trying to cure this affliction which affects millions upon millions of people. From what I can see, most professionals involved in the hair loss industry are interested in performing only hair transplants and are not interested in innovating in any way whatsoever (unless it involves a hair transplant).

I don't believe that Washenik's method or Replicel are scams at all and I have a great deal of respect for those people since they are some of the very few people in this entire world looking to cure hair loss. I believe what Spencer said on his show: that the new board of directors of Aderans was solely profit-minded and saw the money that their wigs and surgery were making for the company. These were businessmen, not scientists, so they did not know their asses from their elbows about hair regeneration. They were just concerned about making money right now and that's why they stopped funding the Ji Gami method.

But I am very encouraged that Mr. Washenik and his team are not giving up on the Ji Gami method and are looking to other investors to kickstart them back into operation. As Spencer said, they would need about $8 million to get themselves back up and running. This really isn't a huge amount of money in the grand scheme of things and I wish some grassroots donation type of movement would commence to get them back up and running.

[Pentarou]

I totally agree. But I really don't think that most of the people involved in the hair loss industry are interested in curing hair loss. Otherwise, we'd have more than a handful of companies trying to cure this affliction which affects millions upon millions of people. From what I can see, most professionals involved in the hair loss industry are interested in performing only hair transplants and are not interested in innovating in any way whatsoever (unless it involves a hair transplant).

Unfortunately, that is incredibly true. We honestly can't trust the mainstream hair transplant community, as the emergence of better treatments goes against their collective interests.

[moore]

Unfortunately, that is incredibly true. We honestly can't trust the mainstream hair transplant community, as the emergence of better treatments goes against their collective interests.

Super quote.

Guys, sorry if I ask something asked millions of times.
I had a look at Replicel stock price over 5 years.

2 questions
- Has the stock been the target of a pump and dump?
- Even if the answer is yes, do you think the company itself is actively pursuing the pump and dump scheme when its stock price is driven up and down in such a way?

http://www.google.com/finance?cid=729633

Thanks!
Again, sorry if the question is silly.

[Sogeking]

Super quote.

Guys, sorry if I ask something asked millions of times.
I had a look at Replicel stock price over 5 years.

2 questions
- Has the stock been the target of a pump and dump?
- Even if the answer is yes, do you think the company itself is actively pursuing the pump and dump scheme when its stock price is driven up and down in such a way?

http://www.google.com/finance?cid=729633

Thanks!
Again, sorry if the question is silly.

Hey moore, don't know how long have you been following the hair loss industry closely ( the forum join date is not a good indicator for that, some poeple join after studying on the industry some before), but I'll describe the events of last year.

Before April 2012, the promotion for Replicel was strong they even hired Tobin to promote them. They were on track for later April release of their Phase I trial results. Before the release the price of stocks went higher, even some forum members bought them. However the trial results were poor, Replicel even released a statement considering that, washing their hands of Tobin promotions. Thats when the stocks went down.

Maybe you know all of this, but for other users.

The outburst of some forum members after Replicel trial results was rather large. I have to admit I was disappointed myself. I wrote than that they have to go back to the drawing board, and rethink things in order to get better results.
Admist speculation there was talk that Replicel could make your DHT susceptible follicles resistant like the ones in the donor region. Alas it seems that was just speculation.

Ofcourse I am still hoping for Replicel to pull through and get better results in Phase 2 trials. However we'll see...

[moore]

Thank you!!!!!

Sogeking, thank you so much. I was in need of such insight.

I've been reasearching for a good while, lunking here and there before posting something on the subject.

Replicel sounds even better than other approaches since they claimed they could even grow brand new follcles.

If you asked me some months ago, I was placing so much hope on David Hall & co...
but apart from the results, out of the hype, some doubts are more than due from the consumer point of view.

[hellouser]

They have cloned Animals; sent men to the moon; and yet...they can't cure baldness.

What the **** is the world coming too?

Here's another advancement in something totally random and biotechs are still struggling with a decent hair loss treatment after decades of dicking around:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/03/self-powered-cyborg-****roaches-are-coming/

LOL, like I said, give the hair loss research to a bunch of engineers and they'd have it cracked in months, not decades.

[cookies]

LOL, like I said, give the hair loss research to a bunch of engineers and they'd have it cracked in months, not decades.

No.