Bio start ups - histogen, follica, Aderans, replicel etc scams?

[hellouser]

As far as I know, Histogen said the same thing.

I hope you are right. But replicel had poor results in phase 1.

Histogen is going through two phase II trials, (IIa and IIb). Same rules apply to them in the asian market.

Again though, read my thread on Replicel's DSC cells formation and time required. Theyre valid points from a noobie.

[hellouser]

It is the second half of 2013.

Replicel? What's happening?

http://www.replicel.com/product-pipe...-regeneration/

Late 2013 theyre launching Phase II, dont worry, only a few months left.

[yeahyeahyeah]

The board most likely just got tired of waiting for a return on their investment and didnt want to spend another 5+ million dollars and wait another 2 years.

A new investor however could see some serious gains in a very short time. Only 1 trial left.

Spencer was right that this could be a good thing... thats only if they find funding from elsewhere. Until that happens though....

lol.

If a product is good enough, people will invest in it.

5 million is nothing for venture capitalists.

Aderans were either milking their parent company of their cash - only for them to clock on. Or were trying to polish a turd.

Why haven't ARI released their phase 2 results (photographs). Think about it.

[hellouser]

lol.

If a product is good enough, people will invest in it.

5 million is nothing for venture capitalists.

Aderans were either milking their parent company of their cash - only for them to clock on. Or were trying to polish a turd.

Why haven't ARI released their phase 2 results (photographs). Think about it.

I wouldnt come to conclusions about speculations. None of us know so theres nothing to really boast about or be bashful for other than against what we do know.

We do know they have a working product though. I dont care if it doesnt work THAT well, it still works to a degree and significantly for some patients. I'd want an aderans treatment regardless, anything to improve my shitty situation and let me live my fvcking life.

[bigentries]

They tried to tackle a very difficult task and failed at it, why are they supposed to be scams?

If curing baldness was cheap and easy, we would have a product already

To get to the cure we need a lot of failures down the road, that's how life usually works, learning from other people's mistakes

People just have a naively positivity most of the time from any vague news that can be constructed as progress

[yeahyeahyeah]

They tried to tackle a very difficult task and failed at it, why are they supposed to be scams?

If curing baldness was cheap and easy, we would have a product already

To get to the cure we need a lot of failures down the road, that's how life usually works, learning from other people's mistakes

People just have a naively positivity most of the time from any vague news that can be constructed as progress

They have cloned Animals; sent men to the moon; and yet...they can't cure baldness.

What the **** is the world coming too?

[garethbale]

lol.

If a product is good enough, people will invest in it.

5 million is nothing for venture capitalists.

Aderans were either milking their parent company of their cash - only for them to clock on. Or were trying to polish a turd.

Why haven't ARI released their phase 2 results (photographs). Think about it.

When parent companies produce their accounts they are consolidated with their subsidiaries. That is, the accounts are produced as a group set of accounts. There's NO WAY a parent would just allow a subsidiary to just milk it for cash as profits of a subsidiary directly affect those of its parent company.

Also, the board are accountable to shareholders, chosen BY shareholders to act FOR shareholders and must report directly to them. I find it highly doubtful that they could produce this intricate scam to steal profits for 10 plus years without shareholder suspicion being aroused.

I think you are being too much of a conspiracy theorist. Aderans Research was not a scam, it was just unsuccessful.

[UK_]

When parent companies produce their accounts they are consolidated with their subsidiaries. That is, the accounts are produced as a group set of accounts. There's NO WAY a parent would just allow a subsidiary to just milk it for cash as profits of a subsidiary directly affect those of its parent company.

Also, the board are accountable to shareholders, chosen BY shareholders to act FOR shareholders and must report directly to them. I find it highly doubtful that they could produce this intricate scam to steal profits for 10 plus years without shareholder suspicion being aroused.

I think you are being too much of a conspiracy theorist. Aderans Research was not a scam, it was just unsuccessful.

Yep... and Ken is also a NW3.

[Javert]

Histogen is going through two phase II trials, (IIa and IIb). Same rules apply to them in the asian market.

Again though, read my thread on Replicel's DSC cells formation and time required. Theyre valid points from a noobie.

Has Histogen started phase 2 trial(s)?

[UK_]

Has Histogen started phase 2 trial(s)?

They're going to do a large scale animal study before they go into their next human trial.

[yeahyeahyeah]

When parent companies produce their accounts they are consolidated with their subsidiaries. That is, the accounts are produced as a group set of accounts. There's NO WAY a parent would just allow a subsidiary to just milk it for cash as profits of a subsidiary directly affect those of its parent company.

Also, the board are accountable to shareholders, chosen BY shareholders to act FOR shareholders and must report directly to them. I find it highly doubtful that they could produce this intricate scam to steal profits for 10 plus years without shareholder suspicion being aroused.

I think you are being too much of a conspiracy theorist. Aderans Research was not a scam, it was just unsuccessful.

Well, Ken could have said anything to them?

It is not working for x reason (insert technical jargon), but we are working on it. (insert more technical jargon). Or he could have over hyped his results when he did make breakthroughs.

what would the board know?

Edit:

The fact that the board of directors changed, tells me, things wern't managed properly.

[yeahyeahyeah]

They're going to do a large scale animal study before they go into their next human trial.

Why? haven't they proven safety in phase 1.

[garethbale]

Well, Ken could have said anything to them?

It is not working for x reason (insert technical jargon), but we are working on it. (insert more technical jargon). Or he could have over hyped his results when he did make breakthroughs.

what would the board know?

Edit:

The fact that the board of directors changed, tells me, things wern't managed properly.

Boards get changed regularly anyway. And even if they were underperforming, it may have been because of something else. Aderans has many investments, not just ARI

[UK_]

Why? haven't they proven safety in phase 1.

Animals suffer from mpb too you know.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Animals suffer from mpb too you know.

I dont get it.

What do they hope to achieve by doing this?

And where are your sources from?