Dermarolling Community Trial

[DesperateOne]

i raped my scalp so hard tonight i could feel my heartbeat in it lol. was weird sensation. literally when my heartbeat my scalp was pulsing at the same time.

oh and...you shouldn't need a picture with flash to see bloody dots...unless you have a ton of density

That's what I plan to do on e my 2.5mm derma arrives. 1.5mm is simply not enough, the only problem as always is the pain. Girls will have it easier since they can tolerate more pain.

[clandestine]

what size dermaroller are you guys using? I feel like using the 0.5mm but I'm worried it wouldn't be enough for me. I'd probably be uncomfortable with the 1-1.5mm dermarollers

Honesty I started with 1.0mm for my first session last week, but am going straight to 1.5mm for this week. Just try it.

[goingquick]

Has anyone seen results with this so far, or is this another idea to toss in the scrap heap?

Girls will have it easier since they can tolerate more pain.

That's a myth. In fact, it's the exact opposite.

[Borealis]

I've probably been doing it one of the longest, only thing I've noticed is that a few (and I mean a few) of the vellus hairs I had previously, have turned terminal. That could have happened due to minox anyway.

Been shedding a shit load though, so many hairs come out in the shower.

[chimera]

Up to this point, I think it's quite obvious that the study we're following is a fat load of bullshit. No, I am not saying the dermaroller does not work, that is something I still don't know. Maybe if you keep rolling for six months or one year you may see something, what I am saying is that the study is full of lies. Results are not just going to pop out of nowhere at the 12 weeks mark, we should be able to see something by now, and we're certainly not. In this forum or the others, all we have are just a couple of pics which show nothing at all (and in most cases, we don't even have before pictures). And yeah, I know that when it comes to hair, three months really mean nothing, but the thing is, the study we're following said three months.

Anyway, maybe this will help, but the results won't be like the study suggested, that's for sure. But who knows?, maybe it could help as a maintenance treatment, maybe not, we'll see.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

chimera you wrong pal

[Stocione]

Up to this point, I think it's quite obvious that the study we're following is a fat load of bullshit. No, I am not saying the dermaroller does not work, that is something I still don't know. Maybe if you keep rolling for six months or one year you may see something, what I am saying is that the study is full of lies. Results are not just going to pop out of nowhere at the 12 weeks mark, we should be able to see something by now, and we're certainly not. In this forum or the others, all we have are just a couple of pics which show nothing at all (and in most cases, we don't even have before pictures). And yeah, I know that when it comes to hair, three months really mean nothing, but the thing is, the study we're following said three months.

Anyway, maybe this will help, but the results won't be like the study suggested, that's for sure. But who knows?, maybe it could help as a maintenance treatment, maybe not, we'll see.

This is a deeply misinformed post. Some people just don't know how to read studies...

[Conpecia]

i would advise reserving judgment, good or bad, on this treatment until January of next year. it's a simple treatment. do it once a week and don't think about it. if by 2014 we're not getting any results we can either make adjustments or abandon ship. until then just do it and don't dwell on it. if you happen to get results take pics and post them.

[chimera]

This is a deeply misinformed post. Some people just don't know how to read studies...

How am I wrong?, the study showed amazing results at three months, results that we are obviously not going to get. What else is there to it?.

Anyway, I know I just can't ignore all the people saying they are seeing vellus hair everywhere, I do think this has the potential to work agains hair loss (but I don't know yet to which extent), but I am convinced that the results from the study are false.

[Stocione]

How am I wrong?, the study showed amazing results at three months, results that we are obviously not going to get. What else is there to it?.

Now, I do think this has the potential to work agains hair loss, I just think the results from the study are false.

Results weren't noted until six weeks, and that's only on a shaved head. There are now over ten people reporting positive results across the public and private hair loss forums. Most people won't notice anything because they do not have a shaved head.

I'm not going to go into it further because I don't think you've actually read the study because if you had, you'd understand why people aren't reporting anything yet. You'd also know about the impact on the rate of hair growth observed.

[Borealis]

I really don't mean to worry anyone, I'm simply asking out of curiosity. Are we sure that there is no risk of losing more hair as a result of dermarolling?

[chimera]

I'm not going to go into it further because I don't think you've actually read the study because if you had, you'd understand why people aren't reporting anything yet. You'd also know about the impact on the rate of hair growth observed.

In fact, I was the first one in this forum to read the whole study. It was I the one who oppened the original thread (theres a link in the fist post of this thread to the thread I oppened before) like a week after it was originally published on *** where nobody gave a damn.

Fine then. I do think this work, I just think that the study is completely fake (well, at least their results are bollocks). But it's OK. I will shut my mouth for a couple of weeks more. We'll see at the three months mark what happen.

[Stocione]

Fine then. I do think this work, I just think that the study is completely fake (well, at least their results are bollocks). But it's OK. I will shut my mouth for a couple of weeks more. We'll see at the three months mark what happen.

So you think their results are fake based on zero evidence? And there's a difference between reading the results section and reading a study. I sincerely doubt you really read and understood the study if you expected results that could be captured in a photograph after four or five weeks of rolling (which is where most people are). They specifically noted that new follicles were only noted at six weeks and we can assume that this was only in the best responders.

My point is this, why post negative thoughts when you legitimately don't have a leg to stand on? I'd understand if we were at the three month mark or even at the two month mark with no one reporting anything. Instead, those individuals with a shaved head and at the six week mark ARE reporting positive things. Most of the rest of us either aren't that far into treatment or don't have shaved heads.

So keep chill and wait it out. Also, I get the feeling that you expect everyone to have a +3 response to this treatment protocol. If so, you are certainly going to be disappointed as the results showed a quite significant standard deviation. Most people here will likely only see a +1 or +2 response.

[Hicks]

In fact, I was the first one in this forum to read the whole study. It was I the one who oppened the original thread (theres a link in the fist post of this thread to the thread I oppened before) like a week after it was originally published on *** where nobody gave a damn.

Fine then. I do think this work, I just think that the study is completely fake (well, at least their results are bollocks). But it's OK. I will shut my mouth for a couple of weeks more. We'll see at the three months mark what happen.

Just put Stocione on your ignore list like I did. That person doesn't have anything constructive to say. Read his/her past post.

Yes it is obvious that parts of the study would be missing, No company would give out proprietary information.

My advice is to hammer on and lurk. I don't give 2 sh**ts about anyone on this board. I am here for one reason. If I can help (I will when I can) great if not sorry.

[Stocione]

Just put Stocione on your ignore list like I did. That person doesn't have anything constructive to say. Read his/her past post.

Yes it is obvious that parts of the study would be missing, No company would give out proprietary information.

My advice is to hammer on and lurk. I don't give 2 sh**ts about anyone on this board. I am here for one reason. If I can help (I will when I can) great if not sorry.

Stop giving out misinformation. This isn't a company. It's a research study sponsored by a hospital in India.

But sure, if pointing out when people are blatantly wrong isn't constructive, go ahead and ignore me. Or in your case, I pointed out that your thoughts lacked any scientific evidence. I wasn't trying to be rude or curt but I don't want to see people fail to follow the study or see results because they listen to advice that lacks scientific evidence. Anyway, good luck to you and keep hammering away. I sincerely hope that you and everyone else here sees results!