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  • HairBane
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 300

    Shouldn't you guys be using FGF9 like Follica said, rather than minoxidil?

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    • chimera
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 171

      Turns out FGF9 is not as easy to get... not at all...

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      • DesperateOne
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 289

        Originally posted by HairBane
        Shouldn't you guys be using FGF9 like Follica said, rather than minoxidil?
        Well, if you can find it or make it, you let us know. I think hellouser is willing to be the lab rat for it.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          Originally posted by chimera
          Turns out FGF9 is not as easy to get... not at all...
          Its easy to get. If you have thousands of dollars.

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          • the_dude78
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 191

            Originally posted by DesperateOne
            Well here are my photos, it's been about a month and a week that I used this procedure. I have kept it basically the same as the study, but I do get some sun for 15 mins now, and vitamin D3. Been on fin for about 3 years now.

            I buzzed my hair on top around 2mm, and it should be about 4mm or so now. Sorry but this is going to have to do for now, until I have to buzz it down more, I don't know if there is any improvement, I think I have gotten some thickness. Well you be the judge, there is not many pics but oh well. I think with a little longer hair and some dermatch, I might be able to pull a relatively passable look, do you think?

            http://imgur.com/a/byiAS#5
            If the last two pictures in the album are the before pictures and the rest are after, then it definitely could look like you've gained some density. But with the quality of the photos, it's hard to tell really. Seems like the lighting in the last two pictures is different.

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            • the_dude78
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 191

              Originally posted by Tracy C
              Are you serious? I don't get even close to being as harsh with you guys as you guys are with me. You guys have been jumping all over my case and giving me massive amounts of unreasonable crap from the very beginning - and all I ever wanted to do was help... I have every right to get even more harsh with you guys than I currently do and I have the green light to go ahead and do so. Whether you like it or not I have a right to defend myself - and I am going to do that.
              Tracy, let me first say I value your input too, and I actually agree with you in most cases, but I think you can be a little harsh too in the way you address people. I know that that's what has provoked me before, not so much your opinions. But then again, I'm a sensitive guy, and I have learned to live with it, and I would actually like to apologize for giving you crap before.

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              • Tracy C
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 3083

                Originally posted by the_dude78
                ...and I would actually like to apologize for giving you crap before.
                Thank you. Apology accepted.

                I am never intentionally harsh unless it is in response to someone who is being an aggressive jerk with me. There are many members of this forum who do just that for the sole sake of being an aggressive jerk. When that happens, I will defend myself.

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                • Tracy C
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3083

                  Originally posted by the_dude78
                  Seems like the lighting in the last two pictures is different.
                  In research photos, it is vitally important to maintain consistency as much as humanly possible. When researching a hair loss remedy, this includes lighting, hair style and length, background and poses. If any of those things are different, it could be very difficult or impossible for anyone to be able to tell if any progress is being made.

                  I looked at his photos, there is too much different for me to be able to tell if any progress has been made. However, I would not expect any progress to be visible for at least four to six months anyways. So I am not surprised if I don't see any.

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                  • DesperateOne
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 289

                    Originally posted by the_dude78
                    If the last two pictures in the album are the before pictures and the rest are after, then it definitely could look like you've gained some density. But with the quality of the photos, it's hard to tell really. Seems like the lighting in the last two pictures is different.
                    You're right, I took the last two photos in the bathroom and closer to the light, the rest are in my room, the light was on but I think the bathroom one has more power. Anyways, I will eventually take some in the bathroom with the same buzzed head when I need it. I am not going to go now just to prove a point, maybe like in 1 month and half more I will go again.

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                    • PayDay
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 544

                      Originally posted by the_dude78
                      Tracy, let me first say I value your input too, and I actually agree with you in most cases, but I think you can be a little harsh too in the way you address people. I know that that's what has provoked me before, not so much your opinions. But then again, I'm a sensitive guy, and I have learned to live with it, and I would actually like to apologize for giving you crap before.
                      I've probably said this before, but I'm actually a fan of the way Tracy tries to inject some common sense into many of the threads on this forum. Her advise is usually excellent, even though I do not agree with some of what she says.

                      I know she got some crap in the past, but things seems to have gotten a lot less hostile here over the past few months and I'm really enjoying reading and participating on forum even more now.

                      I think Tracy might have some PTSD from being harassed in the past, but I have to agree that she has been acting inappropriately hostile and defensive lately.

                      I'm sure you're reading this Tracy so please take this for how it is meant, as I am a member who respects and appreciates you here. Please try to take the high road and stop being so hostile. If you have something to say, you are obviously intelligent enough to make your points without name calling or finger pointing. Two wrongs to not make a right and this type of behavior only lumps you into the say category as some of the people who used to be hostile towards you and you are too good for that.

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                      • DesperateOne
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 289

                        Originally posted by Tracy C
                        In research photos, it is vitally important to maintain consistency as much as humanly possible. When researching a hair loss remedy, this includes lighting, hair style and length, background and poses. If any of those things are different, it could be very difficult or impossible for anyone to be able to tell if any progress is being made.

                        I looked at his photos, there is too much different for me to be able to tell if any progress has been made. However, I would not expect any progress to be visible for at least four to six months anyways. So I am not surprised if I don't see any.
                        You're right Tracy, my apologies. The ones on the bottom are taken directly under the light and the others I was sitting down and the light is not as powerful. I will get buzzed again in 2 months or so and I will try to take the photos as closely as possible to the first ones.

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                        • Tracy C
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3083

                          Originally posted by DesperateOne
                          I will get buzzed again in 2 months or so and I will try to take the photos as closely as possible to the first ones.
                          Actually, I like your hairstyle the way it is now. Why not just maintain that hair style from now on as you continue to participate in this trial?

                          Get someone to help you with photos. Use a good quality camera and do your best to keep the lighting and backgrounds consistent.

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                          • Tracy C
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3083

                            Originally posted by PayDay
                            I think Tracy might have some PTSD from being harassed in the past, but I have to agree that she has been acting inappropriately hostile and defensive lately.
                            I don't know if it is PTSD but I have been getting more aggressive with these guys as they have continued to get more aggressive with me. Maybe it is PTSD or maybe it's just a "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" kind of issue.

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                            • clandestine
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2002

                              Tracy could you tell me again where to buy the saline solution? I've checked my local pharmacies and they don't carry.

                              Thanks.

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                              • PayDay
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 544

                                Originally posted by Tracy C
                                I don't know if it is PTSD but I have been getting more aggressive with these guys as they have continued to get more aggressive with me. Maybe it is PTSD or maybe it's just a "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" kind of issue.
                                Well whatever it is, you're too good to stoop to their level. Take the high road.

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