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  • ChrisM
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 299

    Originally posted by hellouser
    The video you linked has been posted twice already in this thread and debunked as it doesnt follow the study. Even they guy himself in the video says there may be a bit of blood.

    Basically, both you and him are doing it wrong.
    How does that mean I am doing it wrong because a video was posted twice before ? The dude has his hair back to an NW1 . This is a study and it is not conclusive by any means...secondly I am getting results with Dut, Fin and the dermaroller more than under more than an entire year on Finasteride, Nizoral and Minoxidil which did both jack and shit so I really don't know what you are talking about. Why am I wasting my time talking you about it ? If it works for me I won't have to be on this site much longer anyway and I will leave you to your can't or you are doing this wrong or the negativity you espouse.

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4419

      Originally posted by ChrisM
      How does that mean I am doing it wrong because a video was posted twice before ? The dude has his hair back to an NW1 . This is a study and it is not conclusive by any means...secondly I am getting results with Dut, Fin and the dermaroller more than under more than an entire year on Finasteride, Nizoral and Minoxidil which did both jack and shit so I really don't know what you are talking about. Why am I wasting my time talking you about it ? If it works for me I won't have to be on this site much longer anyway and I will leave you to your can't or you are doing this wrong or the negativity you espouse.
      Because youre under the impression this is about just absorption, rather than wounding. Greatjob! corrected you on it as well.

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      • Conpecia
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 904

        hell: if he's getting results then it's working somehow, regardless of the theory. remember, none of us knows whether using minox more often is actually more beneficial or less beneficial than refraining on the dermarolling day. technically, chris is not following the study. but it's just as possible that he is outdoing the study.

        keep in mind that the dude who has posted pics in this thread (stayfly) was applying minox directly after dermarolling. we just need time to figure out the best method.

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        • chimera
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 171

          Originally posted by ChrisM
          How does that mean I am doing it wrong because a video was posted twice before ? The dude has his hair back to an NW1 . This is a study and it is not conclusive by any means...secondly I am getting results with Dut, Fin and the dermaroller more than under more than an entire year on Finasteride, Nizoral and Minoxidil which did both jack and shit so I really don't know what you are talking about. Why am I wasting my time talking you about it ? If it works for me I won't have to be on this site much longer anyway and I will leave you to your can't or you are doing this wrong or the negativity you espouse.
          ChrisM, could you be a little more specific about your treatment?, what did you used?, how long did you used it?, what are you doing now? and since when?

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          • Tracy C
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 3083

            Originally posted by hellouser
            He was a Norwood 4 before.
            No way. That guy was never a Norwood IV. He has no signs of ever having any degree of MPB at all.



            Originally posted by Pentarou
            I'd be far less... Sceptical... if there were other studies with broadly the same or similar results, TBH.
            This is far from a good study. It was far too short to make any meaningful conclusions. But the idea is interesting to me. I would try it myself if I were not worried about getting my hair tangled up in the roller. I would do it once a week though. Probably on Sunday nights.

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            • Conpecia
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 904

              Originally posted by Tracy C
              No way. That guy was never a Norwood IV. He has no signs of ever having any degree of MPB at all.


              he most certainly was losing his hair.

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              • Tracy C
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 3083

                Originally posted by Conpecia
                he most certainly was suffering from mpb.
                Hair loss induced by drug use is not MPB.

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                • Tracy C
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3083

                  You changed your post the same time I responded to what you originally said.

                  The point is that you cannot use a person who never had MPB as a useable example when talking about a possible treatment for MPB.

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                  • chimera
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 171

                    Originally posted by Tracy C
                    No way. That guy was never a Norwood IV. He has no signs of ever having any degree of MPB at all.
                    He had a transplant already.

                    Originally posted by Tracy C
                    This is far from a good study. It was far too short to make any meaningful conclusions.
                    Well, if the study is a lie, then we're ****ed. But if it's true, what more conclusive can you get?, almost nobody in the minoxidil group got results, while almost everybody got results in the minoxidil+dermarolling group. the results of those who got in the minox group were minimal at best, while the results in the minox+dermaroller were very, very substantial. I think we have a very clear conclusion here (as I said, if the study is real).


                    Originally posted by Tracy C
                    I would do it once a week though.
                    Well, that's what the study says, dermaroller just once a week.

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                    • Conpecia
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 904

                      Tracy, he suffered from male pattern baldness. Look at his "donor area" and the sides. No hairloss. That's male pattern baldness. I anticipated that you would make comment 442 and changed it, but in retrospect there was no point. What you mean to say is his hairloss was not genetic but resulted from steroid use. I doubt it.

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                      • chimera
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 171

                        Originally posted by Tracy C
                        Hair loss induced by drug use is not MPB.
                        You are wrong. steroids (testosterone) in those without male pattern baldness does not cause hair loss (well yeah, it can cause some hair loss, but it's pretty minimal). Steroids will take you hair only if you have a MPB predisposition.

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                        • Conpecia
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 904

                          could it be that this dude was wounding and attributed his results to the increased lipogaine absorption? i'd love to think that...

                          i think my new stack is going to be:

                          lipogaine 2x per day, 6x per week
                          dermarolling 1x per week
                          regenepure dr 2x per week

                          **** i/c combo, i'm through with it.

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                          • LevonHelms
                            Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 62

                            Originally posted by Conpecia
                            http://www.hairlossfromsteroids.com

                            he most certainly was losing his hair.
                            Hey, did anyone else notice his tattoo was in a different spot in all his pics? In his before and after shots it's on his right pec, in the bottom pic it's on his left pec. What the hell is up with that?

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                            • Chromeo
                              Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 86

                              Originally posted by LevonHelms
                              Hey, did anyone else notice his tattoo was in a different spot in all his pics? In his before and after shots it's on his right pec, in the bottom pic it's on his left pec. What the hell is up with that?
                              I'm guessing he took that bottom pic with a webcam. Those things quite often mirror the image around. The others are digicam pics, where the tat is displayed on the correct side.

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                              • TheSwingingGate
                                Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 85

                                Are you guys looking at the series of 3 pics of fuller hair on that site?

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