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  • Pentarou
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    Originally posted by Seuxin
    Argh...i juste order a dermaroller....but a 0.75 :\
    Doesn't matter, dermarolling doesn't work anyway. There's zero evidence from the results of rolling on this or any other forum. With the volume of people having tried this and the amount of time since the fad began (over 6 months) you'd expect that there would be at least some positive accounts with photos if the original study was halfway believable.

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  • Pate
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    Originally posted by Bocaj
    http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_clinicupdates.html

    This page provides information on History of Aderans, whose mission is to help people across the world fulfill their dreams and live full, happy lives through hair-related businesses.


    I don't see a connection..unless I missed it.

    Ha..they acquired Hair Club. THAT is funny..although I haven't followed what's going on with that lately.
    Same company. ARI was the research arm of Aderans. But Aderans' board decided to cut ARI's funding, presumably because the results weren't good enough to be commercially viable as a treatment.

    ARI are apparently trying to find alternative sources of funding but nobody seems to be too optimistic about that happening.

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  • Bocaj
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    This page provides information on History of Aderans, whose mission is to help people across the world fulfill their dreams and live full, happy lives through hair-related businesses.


    I don't see a connection..unless I missed it.

    Ha..they acquired Hair Club. THAT is funny..although I haven't followed what's going on with that lately.

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  • Bocaj
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    Originally posted by UK Boy
    Haha, that Dalek helmet's being sold by Aderans! So they pulled their money from HM and decided to invest it in this kinda shit instead - gotta laugh or I'd cry!
    Is the Aderans you're referring to from Japan?

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  • UK Boy
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    Haha, that Dalek helmet's being sold by Aderans! So they pulled their money from HM and decided to invest it in this kinda shit instead - gotta laugh or I'd cry!

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  • Seuxin
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    Argh...i juste order a dermaroller....but a 0.75 :\

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  • Bocaj
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    Actually it's just that first picture and the Japanese characters that make it look goofy. You got excited about that patent...well that's supposedly the kind of tech they were using.

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Bocaj
    This seems to be tied into that Japanese LED device I posted about at some other place. They now have a home/helmet version: http://www.aderans.ne.jp/hairrepro/campaign/20120229/

    Use an online translator for best results
    Everything in that link looks like a complete joke, for starters the helmet looks like a Dalek Robot from Dr. Who:



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  • Bocaj
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    Originally posted by hellouser
    Ok, so along with this tidbit, I was able to find a LOT of other articles on wound theory. This first one is particularly *really* interesting;

    Skin wound healing and hair growth device
    Inventors Masahiro Ogasawara
    Applicant Mignon Belle Co., Ltd.

    Disclosed is a device that can heal skin wounds and grow hair by irradiating light from light emitting diodes (LED). The device is provided with: an ultra-narrowband light irradiation means which generates ultra-narrowband red light with peak wavelength range 620-660nm and FWHM 10nm or less; an ultra-narrowband light irradiation means which generates ultra-narrowband green light with peak wavelength range 500-540nm and FWHM 10nm or less; an ultra-narrowband light irradiation means which generates ultra-narrowband blue light with peak wavelength range 440-480nm and FWHM 10nm or less; and an ultra-narrowband light irradiation means which generates ultra-narrowband red to near infrared light with peak wavelength range 700-2500nm and FWHM 10nm or less. In this way, cell growth factors such as HGF and KGF are acted upon by irradiating the affected area with ultra-narrowband monochromatic light of FWHM 10nm or less, which has excellent effects in healing skin wounds and growing hair.


    Here's one of the results in their patent study:



    This seems to be tied into that Japanese LED device I posted about at some other place. They now have a home/helmet version: http://www.aderans.ne.jp/hairrepro/campaign/20120229/

    Use an online translator for best results

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  • PinotQ
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    ChrisM, How often do you use Ketoconazole 2% and how long due you leave it on your scalp when shampooing?

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  • PinotQ
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    ChrisM, How often do you use Ketoconazole 2% and how long due you leave it on your scalp when shampooing?

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  • ChrisM
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    Originally posted by Diesel15
    There's been no posts in this thread for a while now so maybe this discussion is dead. I don't want to dig through the entire thing to find whether or not this was addressed but did anyone here try DR with Folligen or Tricomin? I've been rolling for about 6 months now. I started at once a week for the first 4 months and have since scaled back to every 2 weeks. I've seen *some* improvement but it is very hard to gauge since I'm a diffuse thinner. I have not been using minox at all though so I'm curious if anyone has tried peptides and has any thoughts/conclusions.
    I used Folligen, Follicure and Tricomin years ago as a shampoo based on the Folligen/ Follicure stated ability to clear away sebum and the Tricomin with its copper peptide binding none of which had a shred of any scientific evidence or clinical trials of import behind them. None of those shampoos did a damn thing and have long since being derided as scams to take the money of men suffering from male pattern baldness. As a result I stopped using them years ago. Regenepure DR was/ is good in the absence of Nizoral from the mainstream market due to faltering in its production/ distribution in various locations but the best is pure prescription Ketoconazole at 2% without the sodium laurel sulfates that damage the scalp and the hair follicle after continuous use of more than twice a week.

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  • Diesel15
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    There's been no posts in this thread for a while now so maybe this discussion is dead. I don't want to dig through the entire thing to find whether or not this was addressed but did anyone here try DR with Folligen or Tricomin? I've been rolling for about 6 months now. I started at once a week for the first 4 months and have since scaled back to every 2 weeks. I've seen *some* improvement but it is very hard to gauge since I'm a diffuse thinner. I have not been using minox at all though so I'm curious if anyone has tried peptides and has any thoughts/conclusions.

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  • chimera
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    Originally posted by nliyan25
    Is it safe to use both Dermarolling and RU?
    I would wait at least a day before applying RU after the dermaroller, you don't want it going systemic...

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  • nliyan25
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    Ok

    Originally posted by UK_
    Is it safe for me to take a shit in the woods?
    Ok then.

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