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  • youngin
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 338

    Originally posted by fred970
    The effects of minoxidil just don't last forever, if they did, it would be a cure.
    This is from Bernsteins site... After almost 3 years on Rogaine:http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/phot...atient-rur.jpg so obviously it lasts quite a long time for some people.

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    • FearTheLoss
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1581

      Dr. Greco recommended that I use a derma roller. He says he believes it increases minox's effectiveness by 80%. I think I may drop rogaine and switch to 82m with a derma roller.

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      • FearTheLoss
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1581

        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
        Dr. Greco recommended that I use a derma roller. He says he believes it increases minox's effectiveness by 80%. I think I may drop rogaine and switch to 82m with a derma roller.
        I should also state that Dr. Greco instructed me to put minox on, derma roll right after, and then put minox on again..rather than not use minox on the day you derma roll. Derma rolling helps to absorb the minox. He said to do this one night of the week.

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        • Pentarou
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 482

          ^ That is quite interesting actually. Anyone else had a Doctor recommend using dermarolling?

          (And I would ask if anyone's still rolling, following the Indian journal study, but that won't be many of you.)

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          • nliyan25
            Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 44

            RU

            Originally posted by Pentarou
            ^ That is quite interesting actually. Anyone else had a Doctor recommend using dermarolling?

            (And I would ask if anyone's still rolling, following the Indian journal study, but that won't be many of you.)
            I'd also consider using a dermaroller with RU, maybe? Maybe it would increase the RU's absorption.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              Originally posted by nliyan25
              I'd also consider using a dermaroller with RU, maybe? Maybe it would increase the RU's absorption.
              Would also increase chances of it going systemic and thus, similar side effects as finasteride.

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              • YoungSufferer217
                Junior Member
                • May 2014
                • 3

                Hey Hellouser ,I know this is completely off subject with regards to this thread but I felt like either you or Desmond were the best people to ask about this.
                I was thinking about why big Pharma companies or even research scientists in this field have only tried to inhibit the production of DHT and not sought to breakdown or destroy the chemical to an extent throughout the body ,is it even possible to break down C19H30O2.?has this been tried before ?is it dangerous to try this ?and I know I'm probably going to get hammered because over production of DHT is not the only cause of balding but I've arrived at a theory (though it might be flawed and highly so because I don't know as much as I'd think you do )if you could take time to try and answer this question ,it would be amazing thanks bro

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                • FearTheLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1581

                  it's very important that you roll correctly. if you are bleeding after rolling than you are undoubtedly rolling too hard and causing trauma to the follicles that will have a negative impact..that's probably why some of you were not getting results.

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                  • fred970
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 922

                    Some of us? No one has been getting results with this scam.

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                    • doke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1464

                      Originally posted by YoungSufferer217
                      Hey Hellouser ,I know this is completely off subject with regards to this thread but I felt like either you or Desmond were the best people to ask about this.
                      I was thinking about why big Pharma companies or even research scientists in this field have only tried to inhibit the production of DHT and not sought to breakdown or destroy the chemical to an extent throughout the body ,is it even possible to break down C19H30O2.?has this been tried before ?is it dangerous to try this ?and I know I'm probably going to get hammered because over production of DHT is not the only cause of balding but I've arrived at a theory (though it might be flawed and highly so because I don't know as much as I'd think you do )if you could take time to try and answer this question ,it would be amazing thanks bro
                      Hi hell will problable tell you that you can block 100% dht with dutasteride but you would need to use 2.5mgs a day and that was the optimum dose that gave regrowth in the trials, although the cost would be a lot as 5 caps a day would be needed.
                      There would be more side effects in oral use and even then it may not bring back severe shiny areas of scalp.
                      Thats why topical use of dht inhibitors are needed flutamide in topical use was said to work but had to be in a gel formula that did not cause systemic side effects.

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                      • Notcoolanymore
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 2246

                        Originally posted by fred970
                        Some of us? No one has been getting results with this scam.
                        I just skimmed through the 500+ page thread about this "treatment" on the other site. With the exception of maybe one guy, I really didn't see many that could document(with pics) their success. That thread was just a bunch of claims, little evidence, censored insults, and no results. So many guys turned their heads into hamburger for nothing.

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                        • Pentarou
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 482

                          Hey, it was worth a go. I think what we did wrong as a community was to not verify the legitimacy of the original journal study first. Something definitely wasn't right there.

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                          • FearTheLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1581

                            The problem is just that, "turning heads into hamburgers". Dermarolling must be done in a very specific way. In such a way where you do not go overboard and damage the follicle. The problem is many people are overzealous with their treatment and practically everyone I saw that was failing was rolling until they bled. This DAMAGES the follicle, so obviously it wouldn't be beneficial.

                            The problem with community trials is people don't follow strict and explicit guidelines to prove/disprove a treatment. Dermarolling has science backing it, and it works. I've been doing it, just like Dr. Greco instructed me to do, and it's been working for me, no doubt.

                            DO NOT cause abrasion, if you're bleeding, you're doing more harm than good.

                            FTL

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                            • Notcoolanymore
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 2246

                              I DM'd for about 6 months. I didn't go overboard with it. I sometimes had small specks of blood. I just didn't see much improvement. Maybe I needed to give it more time to work?

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                              • annonymous4a
                                Junior Member
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 26

                                Hi guys, I want to try dermarolling my hair transplant strip scar. Is there a certain model I should get ? Is this the correct one ?

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