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  • Pentarou
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 484

    Originally posted by Seuxin
    Argh...i juste order a dermaroller....but a 0.75 :\
    Doesn't matter, dermarolling doesn't work anyway. There's zero evidence from the results of rolling on this or any other forum. With the volume of people having tried this and the amount of time since the fad began (over 6 months) you'd expect that there would be at least some positive accounts with photos if the original study was halfway believable.

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    • Seuxin
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 223

      Are you sure ?
      A lot of people use it ?
      And i think absorbtion is better no ???

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      • Bocaj
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 178

        Originally posted by Pate
        Same company. ARI was the research arm of Aderans. But Aderans' board decided to cut ARI's funding, presumably because the results weren't good enough to be commercially viable as a treatment.

        ARI are apparently trying to find alternative sources of funding but nobody seems to be too optimistic about that happening.
        But one is in Japan..been around for YEARS..the other in the USA. I guess there has to be a page on that somewhere if there is a connection...

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        • youngin
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 338

          Originally posted by Pentarou
          Doesn't matter, dermarolling doesn't work anyway. There's zero evidence from the results of rolling on this or any other forum. With the volume of people having tried this and the amount of time since the fad began (over 6 months) you'd expect that there would be at least some positive accounts with photos if the original study was halfway believable.
          Quit misguiding people. Dermarolling may very well work for some people if you do it correctly and have patience. There's been plenty of proof of that. Look at PrettyFly83 posts on this board. The results are so obvious. Just because it doesn't work for you, doesn't mean that it doesn't work at all.

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          • Pentarou
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 484

            Originally posted by youngin
            Quit misguiding people. Dermarolling may very well work for some people if you do it correctly and have patience. There's been plenty of proof of that. Look at PrettyFly83 posts on this board. The results are so obvious. Just because it doesn't work for you, doesn't mean that it doesn't work at all.
            I followed the study exactly. Bloodied my scalp up properly, used minoxidil daily, etc. Nothing.

            If anyone is misguiding people, it's the ones who claim it does work, because there's no evidence other than "it works because I say so". Even prettyfly has disappeared.

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            • Pentarou
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 484

              Basically if dermarolling + minoxidil worked even a fraction as well as claimed by the Indian journal article, we'd KNOW. So many guys dermarolled, we'd have dozens of clear, unambiguous success stories if it worked.

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              • Conpecia
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 911

                Originally posted by Pentarou
                Basically if dermarolling + minoxidil worked even a fraction as well as claimed by the Indian journal article, we'd KNOW. So many guys dermarolled, we'd have dozens of clear, unambiguous success stories if it worked.
                i agree. i started rolling in august and although there looked to be positive signs around the 7th week nothing has changed since. if it worked like the study we'd definitely have a lot of people posting results. tons of guys are getting more vellus hairs so it may be something that takes just as long to regrow as it did to fall out. but i have to say i'm incredibly disappointed at what i've seen from this treatment.

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4423

                  Originally posted by Pentarou
                  Basically if dermarolling + minoxidil worked even a fraction as well as claimed by the Indian journal article, we'd KNOW. So many guys dermarolled, we'd have dozens of clear, unambiguous success stories if it worked.
                  It's posts like this that made Squeegee on *** go berserk on the 'naysayers'. Dermarolling didn't do much for me either; my hair is still thin and hairline still decimated.

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                  • Seuxin
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 223

                    Juste buy one...
                    Disapointed :\ :\

                    Use ? Or don't use ?

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                    • bigentries
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 465

                      Originally posted by Pentarou
                      Basically if dermarolling + minoxidil worked even a fraction as well as claimed by the Indian journal article, we'd KNOW. So many guys dermarolled, we'd have dozens of clear, unambiguous success stories if it worked.
                      Basically this. The study claimed figures around 80% with amazing results, we haven't seen a single unchallenged case in a forum member and this time, a lot of us participated since it was a cheap and easy treatment

                      Science doesn't work on good vibes, thing either work or not, and if they work, they can be replicated

                      People need to face reality, there are basically two options at the moment:

                      1. The study was wrong. A possibility since someone claimed the researchers were offering on their clinic. Huge conflict of interest, combined with the photos

                      2. We are doing something wrong. Another possibility, since the study was somewhat vague from the start.

                      Originally posted by Seuxin
                      Juste buy one...
                      Disapointed :\ :\

                      Use ? Or don't use ?
                      That's your choice man. You already have 6 months of experiences to base your decision.

                      If you decide to use, please take pics once in while in case you see something

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                      • youngin
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 338

                        If it didn't work for you, I'm just curious...

                        1. How long did you do it?
                        2. Did you use betadine?
                        3. Did you use a numbing cream?
                        4. Did you wait 24 hours to apply Minox?
                        5. Are you taking MSM?

                        ...the reason I ask #5 is it seems a few of the people who had success were taking MSM also.

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                        • 35YrsAfter
                          Doctor Representative
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1421

                          Originally posted by youngin
                          If it didn't work for you, I'm just curious...

                          1. How long did you do it?
                          2. Did you use betadine?
                          3. Did you use a numbing cream?
                          4. Did you wait 24 hours to apply Minox?
                          5. Are you taking MSM?

                          ...the reason I ask #5 is it seems a few of the people who had success were taking MSM also.
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                          • bigentries
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 465

                            Originally posted by youngin
                            If it didn't work for you, I'm just curious...

                            1. How long did you do it?
                            2. Did you use betadine?
                            3. Did you use a numbing cream?
                            4. Did you wait 24 hours to apply Minox?
                            5. Are you taking MSM?

                            ...the reason I ask #5 is it seems a few of the people who had success were taking MSM also.
                            1. From August 11 to December 31
                            2. Yes
                            3. No
                            4. Yes
                            5. No, but been on fin for almost 4 years.

                            If people took MSM then it complicates things, considering some people report growth with it alone

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                            • Pentarou
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 484

                              Originally posted by youngin
                              If it didn't work for you, I'm just curious...

                              1. How long did you do it?
                              2. Did you use betadine?
                              3. Did you use a numbing cream?
                              4. Did you wait 24 hours to apply Minox?
                              5. Are you taking MSM?

                              ...the reason I ask #5 is it seems a few of the people who had success were taking MSM also.
                              1. Months, did 14 rolls. 1.5mm roller + bloodshed
                              2. No; you can't buy that here in the UK.
                              3. No.
                              4. Yes.
                              5. Yes, with zinc and vitamin C. However, MSM has never made my hair grow faster whenever I've used it.

                              Used Finasteride for years, FWIW.

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                              • Pentarou
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 484

                                *** just locked all their dermarolling threads and will delete any further threads created about the topic. Not good. I'll be first to admit that I don't think dermarolling works as well as the study claims, perhaps not at all, but we all pulled together and gave it a go, whether here or on other forums. Seeing the ability to carry out community teamwork in future jeopardised is not a good thing.

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