Man made hair follicle model that functions like real hair!

[stayhopeful]

can we try to stick to the topic.. this is rediculous.... every topic tuns into a discussion about fin or some other Bs

does anyone have any intelligent insight about what this amazing finding means to us... this seems amazing? what do they need to iron out?

[hellouser]

can we try to stick to the topic.. this is rediculous.... every topic tuns into a discussion about fin or some other Bs

does anyone have any intelligent insight about what this amazing finding means to us... this seems amazing? what do they need to iron out?

Here's the run down:

1 - The finding is in its infancy
2 - If/when ironed out, they'll need to take it to clinical trials
3 - Wait a number of years for clinical trials to be done and approved
4 - Hope that it goes commercial

All of that to happen would require funding for clinical trials anyways, so you'd basically end up with another lousy Aderans situation where things get delayed and shit. I would hope though, that it wouldnt take over a decade just to get through TWO phases like Aderans has completely botched (10+ years for two phases? holy fvcking shit, how slow).

Recently Japan made a notion to lessen the length of time to do clinical trials on stem cells, so trials should be done THERE for approvals if anyone wants a speedy run of all this bureaucratic bullshit. But that is ONLY possible if the notion passes (still waiting on word on that, hopefully the new regulation passes in our favour) But here's another problem:

By applying a patented microfiber fabrication technology2

So its not entirely based on stem cells, which may require further trials.

Shitty, but... positive news none the less. I just wish there was a rebelious and credible maverick that would take these findings (Dr. Lauster, Tsuji Labs, Replicel, Aderans, etc) and apply them for us baldies TODAY... Dr. Nigam may be the guy, but he's not nearly as credible as say, Dr. Cole.

[Jcm800]

I'll tell you right away, you will care. Even at 50 you will care, at 80, you will always care about your hair. I know that because my father is 51 and still hasn't removed his hair piece once in his life. One of Europe's top HT surgeon (Dr. Bisanga) told me that it's not true, people think they will not care once they are 40, like one day you wake up and you suddenly don't care about your appearance, it's almost never the case. If you care now, you will always care.

Totally agree with the above, younger guys - you will care when you're older, trust us. As all those 5 years pass, you'll be just as concerned then as you are now, in most cases anyway.

[clandestine]

Strong post, hellouser.

Truly Aderans has fvcked up, though. I'm entirely appreciative of their research, but what've we gained from it? 10+ years only to fail?

At least sell your findings off, Christ.

[25 going on 65]

Totally agree with the above, younger guys - you will care when you're older, trust us. As all those 5 years pass, you'll be just as concerned then as you are now, in most cases anyway.

Yes. Have been fighting MPB for almost exactly 5 years. It is as shitty now as ever. You pour endless drugs into your body just to not get worse....2013 for me = over $2,000 spent on hair loss products (by the end of the year). Do not even want to think about how much I have spent in my lifetime total.

However it is worth it. I would spend far more for a true cure

[young]

Totally agree with the above, younger guys - you will care when you're older, trust us. As all those 5 years pass, you'll be just as concerned then as you are now, in most cases anyway.

Are you also a guitarist, by any chance?

[Jcm800]

Are you also a guitarist, by any chance?

Indeed I am, do you play?

[young]

Indeed I am, do you play?

Yes I do. Work as a songwriter and also have a band project.

My username should really be 1987x

[Jcm800]

Yes I do. Work as a songwriter and also have a band project.

My username should really be 1987x

Haha nice one, good amps ;-)

[Jcm800]

Yes. Have been fighting MPB for almost exactly 5 years. It is as shitty now as ever. You pour endless drugs into your body just to not get worse....2013 for me = over $2,000 spent on hair loss products (by the end of the year). Do not even want to think about how much I have spent in my lifetime total.

However it is worth it. I would spend far more for a true cure

I've spent heaps so far as well, mainly on scam bullshit such as trx2 and keretene retard (which appears to be a scam, but not 100% sure)

[hellouser]

I've spent heaps so far as well, mainly on scam bullshit such as trx2 and keretene retard (which appears to be a scam, but not 100% sure)

The only things you should be on are:

Minox
RU
CB
Finasteride
Dutasteride
Nizoral
Saw Palmetto

+

Any shampoo with saw palmetto, azelaic acid, l-argenine along with styling products that contain those ingredients or any ingredient that inhibits DHT or promotes growth.

The only other experimental substance you'd want to dabble with is BNP-32 as the patent study showed insane results. The only problem is how its applied (lubrajel was used as a vehicle and those who've experimented with it havent seen results yet).

Dermarolling should provide MUCH better efficacy for all topicals (perhaps for BNP-32 as well). I would suggest that as well. Its a small investment, about $20 on ebay.

All those items I've listed won't cost you a fortune but those are the only proven ones that actually do anything substantial. Anything else you shouldnt bother with, just save your pennies for a treatment from Histogen's HST or Replicel DSC cell procedure when available OR Dr. Gho's HST with regeneration, the money you'll dump into those procedures will be far better spent on all the other snake oil.

[john2399]

That's a pretty ignorant stance. Essentially what youre saying is that those who have been robbed of their identity with male pattern baldness, should suck it up.

I see that you've made a number of these complacent comments, almost makes me wonder why youre even in the cutting edge forum.

I started losing my hair at 15 so i have become very appreciative of hair. I have low expectations and if i can have hair for my 20s that would be enough. I just feel if you make it in life with hair up until your 40s, you should be happy and content with it and take it like a man.

[sausage]

I think I would care about when I get older, but it won't matter as much, your 20's/30's is when you need hair most..........to help you get the girl of your dreams.

I defo need to do something about my loss.......but I keep going around in circles with what treatment to go for......probably because everything has negatives for me........as soon as I get set on having one type of surgery/treatment I hear something bad about it and change my mind.

[fred970]

News flash, life doesn't stop at 40, or at 50, life stops when you die. But yeah you're 15 so you couldn't understand. I'm 23 but I took the time to listen to older men I look up to. You could be the most succesful man on earth and be hit by hair loss in your 50's very hard. We sometimes hear some 55 years guy calling up Spencer saying he's falling into depression because he started balding at 52.

[john2399]

News flash, life doesn't stop at 40, or at 50, life stops when you die. But yeah you're 15 so you couldn't understand. I'm 23 but I took the time to listen to older men I look up to. You could be the most succesful man on earth and be hit by hair loss in your 50's very hard. We sometimes hear some 55 years guy calling up Spencer saying he's falling into depression because he started balding at 52.

Im not 15, i said i started losing it at 15...im glad you can read. Im 20 and i never said life stops at 40 or 50 but you should be able to get over hairloss at that age and if you can't then thats quite sad.