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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1581

    #16
    Nobody knows when a "cure" or something as good as one is going to be released. I would say realistically in the next 15 years for sure.

    That being said, we will have treatments better than minox and propecia in the next 3-5 years...thank god

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    • sausage
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1063

      #17
      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
      Nobody knows when a "cure" or something as good as one is going to be released. I would say realistically in the next 15 years for sure.

      That being said, we will have treatments better than minox and propecia in the next 3-5 years...thank god
      What treatments 'better than minox and propecia' are on the way?

      I assume you mean topical, pills/oral medication? I have not heard of any such emerging medications to rival both of those.....interesting....

      What is the latest on these? Do they regrow hair or just maintain it?

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #18
        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
        Nobody knows when a "cure" or something as good as one is going to be released. I would say realistically in the next 15 years for sure.

        That being said, we will have treatments better than minox and propecia in the next 3-5 years...thank god
        For NW5+ its going to be a pretty shit state for a while, but for NW3 and below its definitely an exciting time.

        If Tsuji Labs pulls through with the potential benefits of the new regulations, then we should all go out and pop open a LOT of champagne.

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        • KO1
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 805

          #19
          NW3 and below don't need any new treatments. If they can tolerate fin (or Dut or CB) an HT would set them up very well for many years. Someone less than NW3 can't even be noted as balding.

          OTOH, if this treatment is primarily going to be useful for <NW3's who can't tolerate fin, then it's no use to the majority of men losing their hair.

          Now if it is primarily to thicken up miniaturized hairs, it could be useful to men whose MPB is still transitioning.

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          • KO1
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 805

            #20
            I think cell implantation based treatments like Nigam, ARI, Replicel are best for men with an active pattern of hair loss, and such a treatment will "shrink" the transition zone. But for really good results, they'll need to take current meds, as Boldy noted, to make the environment less toxic.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #21
              Originally posted by KO1
              NW3 and below don't need any new treatments. If they can tolerate fin (or Dut or CB) an HT would set them up very well for many years. Someone less than NW3 can't even be noted as balding.

              OTOH, if this treatment is primarily going to be useful for <NW3's who can't tolerate fin, then it's no use to the majority of men losing their hair.

              Now if it is primarily to thicken up miniaturized hairs, it could be useful to men whose MPB is still transitioning.
              NW3 and below can't be considered balding? Where do you think balding starts? Do you think guys MAGICALLY become an NW3+ overnight?

              While my hair density is high enough not to go noticed as balding, its still relatively thin. Combine that with my lousy hairline and its a pretty lousy site.

              Finasteride shouldn't even be on the market considered what it does to mens sexual life. That alone makes it a writeoff of a solution. Quit being complacent with Finasteride, the shit needs to be replaced with something superior.

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              • KO1
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 805

                #22
                Originally posted by hellouser
                NW3 and below can't be considered balding? Where do you think balding starts? Do you think guys MAGICALLY become an NW3+ overnight?

                While my hair density is high enough not to go noticed as balding, its still relatively thin. Combine that with my lousy hairline and its a pretty lousy site.

                Finasteride shouldn't even be on the market considered what it does to mens sexual life. That alone makes it a writeoff of a solution. Quit being complacent with Finasteride, the shit needs to be replaced with something superior.
                Yes, many people do become a NW3+ overnight. I did. NW2 is a mature hairline and not balding. Hairloss does not progress in a linear fashion from NW1-NW7. NW3 is the lowest state, and can easily be solved with a hair transplant.

                Finasteride is a great treatment for hairloss, and every man who is losing his hair should seriously consider it, ideally before that hairloss becomes visible. Side effects are overblown and exaggerated, and it remains THE gold standard for treatment, and nothing has surpassed it yet.

                If guys catch it early, the vast majority of men will never need HM/ARI/Replicel. Oh, and those treatments won't stop the progression of hair loss the way fin will. If the treatment is only good for Sub3's, then it's nothing to get excited about.

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                • TravisB
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 188

                  #23
                  Nvm

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                  • FearTheLoss
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1581

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TravisB
                    Nvm
                    That was a safety trial...that showed to be better than anything we have on the market today PLUS it is going to be improved in the dosage trial.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      #25
                      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                      That was a safety trial...that showed to be better than anything we have on the market today PLUS it is going to be improved in the dosage trial.
                      There was mention that they changed their method as well, an improvement afaik.

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                      • KO1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 805

                        #26
                        I think Replicel's treatment will be great for diffusers...like me actually. In many cases, there are a lot of miniaturized hair shafts that need to be thickened up.

                        I suspect for men who have thick, but receding hair, it may not be as good. But just a guess.

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                        • FearTheLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1581

                          #27
                          No RepliCel is supposed to create NEW follicles as well as repair damaged and dormant follicles.

                          Step 6:

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                          • TravisB
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 188

                            #28
                            Originally posted by KO1
                            I think Replicel's treatment will be great for diffusers...like me actually. In many cases, there are a lot of miniaturized hair shafts that need to be thickened up.

                            I suspect for men who have thick, but receding hair, it may not be as good. But just a guess.


                            Here Replicel wrote that their procedure has potential to become PERMANENT solution for hair loss.

                            So it means that maybe effects of the treatments will not diminish in time

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1581

                              #29
                              RepliCel is working on "The Cure"

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                #30
                                Originally posted by TravisB
                                http://www.replicel.com/wp-content/u...ts_Dec2012.pdf

                                Here Replicel wrote that their procedure has potential to become PERMANENT solution for hair loss.

                                So it means that maybe effects of the treatments will not diminish in time
                                Another reason why finasteride should be a FOOTNOTE in hair loss history.

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