So how close are we to a new 'cure'

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  • reckless
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 26

    Every man should be made aware of fin. Then they can decide whether or not they want to take it after researching the potential side effects.

    I wish I knew about it when I was 22.

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    • KO1
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 805

      cichlidfort, you there?

      I want to get your answer for this:
      I am on the verge of deciding whether or not to have a hair transplant within the next 6 months........ But day to day I hear about another potential cure/treatment which is listed on this forum. Ideally I would like some views on how close we are to a significant step up from hair transplantation and current meds.......

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      • cichlidfort
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 262

        Originally posted by KO1
        cichlidfort, you there?

        I want to get your answer for this:
        http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpos...&postcount=150
        Sorry I was busy having a life. Why are there lawsuits against the drug? Why have there been suicides because of the drug? Why has there been plenty of reported cases of depression and sexual dysfunction because of the drug? Your glass holds no water. It's a risk. Works for many guys but for some it doesn't. Now grow up and let it go.

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        • KO1
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 805

          Originally posted by cichlidfort
          Sorry I was busy having a life. Why are there lawsuits against the drug? Why have there been suicides because of the drug? Why has there been plenty of reported cases of depression and sexual dysfunction because of the drug? Your glass holds no water. It's a risk. Works for many guys but for some it doesn't. Now grow up and let it go.
          You still have not answered my question, and stop changing the subject. Since you know so much about "DHT and how the body works", why do most people not suffer these sides from high levels of DHT suppression?

          Enlighten me.

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            Originally posted by KO1
            You still have not answered my question, and stop changing the subject. Since you know so much about "DHT and how the body works", why do most people not suffer these sides from high levels of DHT suppression?

            Enlighten me.
            Whats the point of asking? You shouldnt be defending Finasteride at all, the stuff is 20 years old and is known to give serious sexual side effects. More importantly, its TWENTY years old, you should be making more of a push for stem cell treatment or some kind of hair multiplication process instead of backing finasteride.

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            • KO1
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 805

              Originally posted by hellouser
              Whats the point of asking? You shouldnt be defending Finasteride at all, the stuff is 20 years old and is known to give serious sexual side effects. More importantly, its TWENTY years old, you should be making more of a push for stem cell treatment or some kind of hair multiplication process instead of backing finasteride.
              The reason I am asking is because he decided to be a sanctimonious t***t and lecture us on "knowing how the human body works", so let's see his response. I am defending finasteride because it is a great drug that every man who has MPB should consider and rarely gives serious sexual side effects. Even if it is TWENTY years old, it is still enough for many.

              And how exactly am I going to make a "push" for hair multiplication? Kidnap Lauster?

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                Originally posted by KO1
                The reason I am asking is because he decided to be a sanctimonious t***t and lecture us on "knowing how the human body works", so let's see his response. I am defending finasteride because it is a great drug that every man who has MPB should consider and rarely gives serious sexual side effects. Even if it is TWENTY years old, it is still enough for many.

                And how exactly am I going to make a "push" for hair multiplication? Kidnap Lauster?
                Even if its enough for many, its not anywhere near enough for many more. Additionally, there are those that can't afford it, don't know about it, are too late to get on it, etc.

                I didn't specifically say make a push for hair multiplication, it should be obvious that I meant to make a push for a superior alternative, not this stone age shit.

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                • KO1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 805

                  Finasteride is not stone age. Anyways, there's nothing you or I can do about new treatments unless you have the ability and means to actually finance this work and invest in firms that can bring treatments to market. I don't have millions, many do though. In fact that is how Follica was started, they used Cots' discovery and shopped it around to investors.

                  As far I can see, that is the only way. One could also do what Boldy is doing and visiting Nigam with the idea of improving his protocol.

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by KO1
                    Finasteride is not stone age.
                    Conversation ends right here if you actually believe this.

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                    • KO1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 805

                      The reason I keep touting finasteride is because watching these HM treatments fail or disappear seems routine at this point. One should never hold off on using current treatments based on hope.

                      Also, in many cases, like Histogen, they will work better the more hair you have. Which again leads back to fin.

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                      • KO1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 805

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Conversation ends right here if you actually believe this.
                        Finasteride is not stone age. I repeat, it is safe and effective and every man should consider it.

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                        • garethbale
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 603

                          Originally posted by KO1
                          Finasteride is not stone age. I repeat, it is safe and effective and every man should consider it.
                          It's definitely not as effective as some people believe. It usually slows down crown loss but if it stops your loss you are very lucky

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                          • KO1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 805

                            Originally posted by garethbale
                            It's definitely not as effective as some people believe. It usually slows down crown loss but if it stops your loss you are very lucky
                            Statistically most people are above baseline after five years, and in the only 10 year study....well you know what I will say.

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                            • DepressedByHairLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 854

                              I agree with you, hellouser. Today's treatment are rudimentary, largely ineffective, riddled with downsides, and not nearly enough to treat hair loss. I believe that when superior alternatives come to fruition, many people will look back and realize how "stone age" these current treatments actually are.

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                              • KO1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 805

                                ^ Not even close to true. Keep dreaming buddy, and when are these exciting treatments coming anyways? Do you know?

                                Also, even these new second generation treatments like Replicel, Histogen, and Aderans will work better the more hair you have, which will require finasteride.

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