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It's hard for me to believe that this isn't legit. ProHair Clinic is a reputable company and they say they did an independent study that showed the correct results. Seems like alot of work from a well known company just to scam people.
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Think whatever you want, but this shit doesn't work. Everyone making money off this crap claims that all test subjects had drops in DHT. Every independent person who has been tested had no effect or even higher DHT. There are only a few possibilities here:
1) Me, Julio, and the other guys who took tests are maniacal and are trying to bring down Keratene for no apparent reason.
2) By some insane coincidence, every person they tested had a significant result and none of us were responders, even though we all responded to finasteride.
3) They somehow have been shipping a defective product and its all a big mistake.
I am confused about it as well. It seems strange that two apparently established companies would lie about a product to make a little short term money. But it seems even more unlikely that our results would be so far from their test data when they claim such dramatic results for EVERY SINGLE subject. It's also quite apparent that there are paid marketing people (really, really bad ones) trolling the message boards posting false testimonials. That in itself makes me think that they really are liars. I would love it if someone from the company would actually come on here and address this, but I won't hold my breath.Last edited by Winston; 07-11-2013, 10:00 AM. Reason: Potentially defamatory language removed. Please refer to our posting policies.Comment
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Perhaps Keratene supplied them with a different formulation for their test. As I said, it's possible that they made a bad batch and we all got some of it. But I find it highly unlikely.
I don't know much about Prohairclinic but I can say for sure that some of the chain ht outfits are unscrupulous companies who have been lying to and maiming customers for decades. Just because a business is known does not make it honest or legitimate.Comment
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It's not the money so much I've lost that hurts. It's the priceless time. A year and a half on Trx2, and if i hadn't seen these independent blood tests that ryan and JulioGP have gone out of their way to do, I'd no doubt have wasted a year on this crud, the smell of cash eh, makes people stoop to low levels, it's a fkn ocean full of sharks and us hairloss sufferers are the bait.Comment
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My friends.
I really did not expect that Kératene were present these results without effectiveness. I bought enough product for 4 months of treatment and I deeply regret having spent my money on it.
I never had any intention of harming the company, on the contrary, I would love to be coming here and saying "THIS PRODUCT IS PERFECT, IT WORKS!". This is the phrase I'm looking for some time and is stuck in my throat, but it was not this time.
There is no reason to run after more than 25 days the Kératene with 1 capsule daily (in my case) and run for more than 1 week to 2 capsules a day (in the case of Ryan) there was no change in the minimum DHT until Saw Palmetto is an herbal product that gives change in a short time and Kératene tests had shown reductions of more than 70% on DHT, see:
1850 to 490. More than 70% reduction. ?????
FAKE
This is refuted in our testing. And there is no reduction of DHT, something that would really worry me WHAT this drug is able to do since not caused the expected effect? In such cases I think the risk of administering this drug would increase too. If you enter this reaction testosterone (testosterone being prevented from turning into DHT by Kératene) it would become something else, which could be VERY dangerous for the body, something with serious consequences.
In my opinion, these simple blood tests that some did here, showed that the company did not conduct studies with proper security because nothing happened as it promised, however, do not know what may have changed with the Kératene since DHT has not changed.
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Well I will be first to admit that I have been a little taken aback with the results posted by Julio and ryan. But I am willing to give the product the benefit of doubt (related to their argument of ELISA versus LCTMS method of testing) for the sole reason that I see definite improvement in my hair. I am not at all comfortable with stopping this regimen when it seems to be working for me.
I am sure many of you will assume that i am troll trying to promote the company (which isn't true), but honestly it's none of my concern.I am just telling you my personal experience after being on this regimen for 5 months. I just glad that I no longer have to apply minox everyday and suffer with the face/skin side effects.
All i can suggest as a friend for users like jcm800 is use up your supply of the capsules and then decide for yourself whether it's working or not. Just laying the other side of the story, rest is upto each individual.Comment
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The "ELISA vs LCTMS" argument is BS. The test I took was 95% accurate. So lets say that my actual DHT was 5% lower than reported the second time, and 5% higher the first time. That would mean my before and after were essentially identical, as opposed to being higher after taking KAR twice daily.
I've seen an improvement in my hair from taking a biotin cap and some fish oil, but that doesn't mean they will stop hair loss in the long run. This company didn't promise to improve ones hair, they promised to significantly lower DHT. For that purpose, this product is a scam.Comment
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I 100% got sides from this and no it wasnt psychological,
you think im imagining more sides from a freaking beta sitosterol formulation v/s a anti antrogenic chinese chemical aka RU?
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I did not do blood tests. It's a complicated and costly process with my insurance here to get blood tests done, especially LCTMS that they mention. When i see my diffused and bald spots being filled up (especially on the crown) and also getting positive comments from my friends (without even asking them about my hair), I wouldn't categorize that as a placebo effect. If i was the only one thinking there is an improvement in my hair, then yes, I would agree placebo effect was a possibility, but that's not the case here.
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Have to sing for a refund folks...
As stated in our terms of conditions we only accept returns up to 14 days after ordering.
We do not comment on anonymous claims on forums, sorry.
There you have it, they're not listening to refund requests based on anonymous forum users blood tests.
 
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That's because they're liars and thieves. They know that it takes at least a week to get their bs product, at least another week to be on the crap before one can take a blood test, and yet another week to get the results. By the time you become aware of what worthless trash this stuff is, they already have your money and you're past the refund date. How convenient. Show them proof that their product doesn't work? No problem, they'll just make up something about how your test wasn't accurate or recommend you get a test they know you won't have access to. Keep pressing them? They'll just downplay the test results as some "anonymous user" on the Internet. SCUM.Comment
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