Good News -- I just called Aderans Research Institute in Atlanta

[Breaking Bald]

So now...mass suicide?

This was by far the best funded, and most sophisticated operation. Replicel is a joke compared to ARI.

Unless Nigam can figure it out, we're going to be waiting for many many years gentlemen. (I'm ignoring Follica as I have no knowledge of them)

What about Histogen?

[KO1]

What about Histogen?

Histogen will help, but I don't think it's a game changer.

[Breaking Bald]

Yeah maybe so, really sucks about Aderans but let's move on. Still don't really get Dr Nigams but I hope he is onto something, why do you think he 'panders' to us on the forums? As Spencer puts it. When most other surgeons, scientists stay clear of them.

[Pentarou]

How do we know that Aderans didn't kill off ARI because because it worked too well and threatened their wig and HT interests?

[garethbale]

So now...mass suicide?

This was by far the best funded, and most sophisticated operation. Replicel is a joke compared to ARI

what are you basing that on?

I saw nothing from Aderans to suggest they were any better than Replicel

[Breaking Bald]

How do we know that Aderans didn't kill off ARI because because it worked too well and threatened their wig and HT interests?

Seems very plausible

[KO1]

what are you basing that on?

I saw nothing from Aderans to suggest they were any better than Replicel

What do you find so great about Replicel? ARI had invested much more than Replicel, and had a more sophisticated understanding of the science. Rep was a similar technology just based on the idea that DSC cells would prove superior.

[garethbale]

What do you find so great about Replicel? ARI had invested much more than Replicel, and had a more sophisticated understanding of the science. Rep was a similar technology just based on the idea that DSC cells would prove superior.

I don't find anything particularly great about Replicel, but at least HM(or some form of follicle creation) seems their main goal.

Aderans had a number of interests, which leads me to believe Ji Gami wasn't that high on their list of priorities and they're perhaps not so concerned by its (apparent) failure

[UK_]

How do we know that Aderans didn't kill off ARI because because it worked too well and threatened their wig and HT interests?

Seems very plausible

Obvious to me

[Pentarou]

I don't find anything particularly great about Replicel, but at least HM(or done dory of follicle creation) seems their main goal.

Aderans had a number of interests, which leads me to believe Ji Gami wasn't that high on their list of priorities and they're perhaps not so concerned by its (apparent) failure

The point is that ARI had major serious financial backing that NONE of the competitors, certainly not Replicel, have or had. Big Pharma doesn't want us to have a 'cure'.

[UK_]

There's no conspiracy here, the results were shit and that's that. Obviously the people funding ARI felt the results of Phase II didnt justify a Phase III.

DP cells wont work, I dont even know if DSC cells (Replicels technique) will work either, as their phase I results were hardly amazing.

Everything now rests on Replicels Phase II results which are a year away and whatever Histogen can pull out. I think we're a long long way off a cure guys.

[hellouser]

Would it not be possible to see a combination of Aderans and Replicel now? One procedure following the other? That could give some interesting results.... suppose Replicel or Shiseido decided to buy them out?

[garethbale]

The point is that ARI had major serious financial backing that NONE of the competitors, certainly not Replicel, have or had. Big Pharma doesn't want us to have a 'cure'.

Hmm...not sure I buy all those conspiracy theories. Why would Aderans invest so much money into something to only then stop it because it threatens their wig and transplant interests. Makes no sense

They probably just discontinued it because they don't feel it's worth it financially to continue

[KO1]

Would it not be possible to see a combination of Aderans and Replicel now? One procedure following the other? That could give some interesting results.... suppose Replicel or Shiseido decided to buy them out?

No. ARI's solution was more comprehensive than Replicel. No benefit to combining them.

Replicel = DSC cells
ARI = DP and HF bulge cells. TWO cell types create crosstalk.

[KO1]

No. ARI's solution was more comprehensive than Replicel. No benefit to combining them.

Replicel = DSC cells
ARI = DP and HF bulge cells. TWO cell types create crosstalk.

I think Nigam is ahead of Replicel btw. He is doing 3D DP culture, and using bulge cells. Nobody has done that to my knowledge...