Good News -- I just called Aderans Research Institute in Atlanta

[Desmond84]

How funny would that be to use Alec Baldwin as the face of a campaign, eventhough he's not balding (or maybe he is?) and run it as a joke... kind of like the song 'Duck Sauce - Barbra Streisand' (link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu_zwdmz0hE)

Bahahahahhaah I think we're done!

[hellouser]

Bahahahahhaah I think we're done!

I think I'll make a thread later on this week, gonna gather my thoughts as to how it should be done.

I could put some money towards buying a domain name, I've already got hosting and we could put up a simple wordpress website and fill it with information, we could even buy a template for about $50, for example: http://www.organicthemes.com/themes/

[hiilikeyourbeard]

I have a friend who is honestly the best at editing and producing film I have ever seen. I could talk to him about maybe helping edit... here's something he's done just messing around http://youtu.be/8wy9Y_-kt-Y

[hellouser]

I have a friend who is honestly the best at editing and producing film I have ever seen. I could talk to him about maybe helping edit... here's something he's done just messing around http://youtu.be/8wy9Y_-kt-Y

AWESOME. Camera work is fantastic, very very smooth and you can tell they know what theyre doing since theres no camera shake at all in the airplane.

[Vox]

Don't only focus on men, and not only on women that are losing hair, but also target women who prefer men WITH hair as it benefits them having an aesthetically pleasing partner.

If you are going to do anything like this, please make a favor all the bald community and don't talk about only the aesthetic issue. Talk also about the singular form of disability induced by the lack of natural protection of the head. People need to understand that if you don't have hair on your head, your life becomes significantly more complicated, since you need to continuously take protection measures: drizzle, rain, cold, snow means you will wear a hat; sun means you will perhaps wear a hat; but a bald scalp perspires too much when it is hot, torrents of sweat on your face, so you will rather not wear one, but then you risk a sunburn on the top of the head and the subsequent changes in the skin. Scratches? Yes, them too, they appear very fast, even under a hat. Bald guys are in unusual physical disadvantage in front of the normal guys, before considering anything aesthetics-related.

We so often see this problem downgraded to an aesthetic one, which is only half of the story. I believe this makes part of the fact that no one cares and there is so little motivation to solve it. People need to realize that this causes problems in everyday life, because it leaves the skin of your head exposed. This is huge by itself. Of course this is of concern for a fraction only of bald/balding men (say beyond NW4-5), but I believe that it needs to finally be pointed out. Clearly and loudly.

[hellouser]

If you are going to do anything like this, please make a favor all the bald community and don't talk about only the aesthetic issue. Talk also about the singular form of disability induced by the lack of natural protection of the head. People need to understand that if you don't have hair on your head, your life becomes significantly more complicated, since you need to continuously take protection measures: drizzle, rain, cold, snow means you will wear a hat; sun means you will perhaps wear a hat; but a bald scalp perspires too much when it is hot, torrents of sweat on your face, so you will rather not wear one, but then you risk a sunburn on the top of the head and the subsequent changes in the skin. Scratches? Yes, them too, they appear very fast, even under a hat. Bald guys are in unusual physical disadvantage in front of the normal guys, before considering anything aesthetics-related.

We so often see this problem downgraded to an aesthetic one, which is only half of the story. I believe this makes part of the fact that no one cares and there is so little motivation to solve it. People need to realize that this causes problems in everyday life, because it leaves the skin of your head exposed. This is huge by itself. Of course this is of concern for a fraction only of bald/balding men (say beyond NW4-5), but I believe that it needs to finally be pointed out. Clearly and loudly.

Good points Vox, and I would definitely not only attribute it to aesthetics either as that is only part and parcel of the cause of depression. But aesthetics play a huge part and definitely a significantly larger one in day to day situations. Apart from the women aspect, society also treats us less equally, we're the butt of all jokes, we're seen as older and inferior, etc. The aesthetic issue leads to a greater problem: belonging and acceptance in a community, and that my friend is a basic human need. Watch the movie 'Harold', its about a kid in school who's basicaly a slick bald NW6 and he's basically tossed aside from everyone else. But this happens in adult life as well.

But yes, I fully agree that the physical health aspects are an important one too. I remember back in 2008 when I went to Cuba for a week, I had applied sun screen on my face and came back with a sun burn on my temples. Back then I didnt make anything of my hairline, didn't even realize i was balding. The ignorance on men's part could be addressed to. Oh, and should this happen, you can be sure I'll take a shot at Finasteride, if only to piss off KO1. Enough waiting, enough empty promises, enough of stone age finasteride and its side effects, enough of the media attention whoring from Cotsarelis and his repetitive 'within 5 years' bullshit... time to get something not only completed but rolled out to the masses. Its long overdue. They've sent a man to the moon, cloned a sheep, made processors with millions of transistors, smashed atoms at near light speed... its about time someone grows a fvcking hair follicle... oh wait, Dr. Lauster's already done it... but again, enough of the wait, he's been far too quiet and we've been far too complacent about it. We should be demanding a treatment rather than sitting on our asses and making replies on forums like the one im writing NOW.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Good points Vox, and I would definitely not only attribute it to aesthetics either as that is only part and parcel of the cause of depression. But aesthetics play a huge part and definitely a significantly larger one in day to day situations. Apart from the women aspect, society also treats us less equally, we're the butt of all jokes, we're seen as older and inferior, etc. The aesthetic issue leads to a greater problem: belonging and acceptance in a community, and that my friend is a basic human need. Watch the movie 'Harold', its about a kid in school who's basicaly a slick bald NW6 and he's basically tossed aside from everyone else. But this happens in adult life as well.

But yes, I fully agree that the physical health aspects are an important one too. I remember back in 2008 when I went to Cuba for a week, I had applied sun screen on my face and came back with a sun burn on my temples. Back then I didnt make anything of my hairline, didn't even realize i was balding. The ignorance on men's part could be addressed to. Oh, and should this happen, you can be sure I'll take a shot at Finasteride, if only to piss off KO1. Enough waiting, enough empty promises, enough of stone age finasteride and its side effects, enough of the media attention whoring from Cotsarelis and his repetitive 'within 5 years' bullshit... time to get something not only completed but rolled out to the masses. Its long overdue. They've sent a man to the moon, cloned a sheep, made processors with millions of transistors, smashed atoms at near light speed... its about time someone grows a fvcking hair follicle... oh wait, Dr. Lauster's already done it... but again, enough of the wait, he's been far too quiet and we've been far too complacent about it. We should be demanding a treatment rather than sitting on our asses and making replies on forums like the one im writing NOW.

I feel your pain. I am a Norwood 2 with thick hair, but being powerless with knowing how to treat my hairloss safely is annoying me. I am now facing the prospect of seeing my hairline slowly receed as I do not want to take propecia!

Hairloss is always on my mind, I often think about how I would look if I had no recession, as my hairline will than frame my face perfectly. I currently have to do a Jude law style comb forwards to hide my hairline.

I'm also always in fear over further recession. I know for a fact that if I didn't have hairloss, it will be like a weight lifted off my shoulders.

But what can I say guys, life does not owe us anything. The girl, the job , the looks etc It is designed to be unfair. The fittest only survive. If you are born with shit cards, all you can do, is the best with them.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Some of you guys are also very lucky. I've had to live with facial disfigurement for a large portion of my life. I am 27 now , and my face is finally fixed.

So remember guys, things can always be worse.

[hiilikeyourbeard]

we're all in this fight together

[hellouser]

Some of you guys are also very lucky. I've had to live with facial disfigurement for a large portion of my life. I am 27 now , and my face is finally fixed.

So remember guys, things can always be worse.

Its all relative though. I've got tinnitus as well, had surgery on my gums last week, my shins feel weird often times, possibly shin splints, etc. on top my hair loss. The other things don't bother me anywhere near as much as my hair. I just want to be socially integrated rather than treated or approached as inferior.

Although tinnitus does worry me, I hope it doesn't get worse.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Its all relative though. I've got tinnitus as well, had surgery on my gums last week, my shins feel weird often times, possibly shin splints, etc. on top my hair loss. The other things don't bother me anywhere near as much as my hair. I just want to be socially integrated rather than treated or approached as inferior.

Although tinnitus does worry me, I hope it doesn't get worse.

Baldness for me is a kick in the balls to be honest. After 3 operations on my face, I can't seem to enjoy it with a NW1. The worse thing is I would do something about it if there was something safe out there; histogen would have been perfect for me as I just have slight recession around my temples.

Feel hard done.

And yes it's relative, I used my case as an example because like hairloss it is around the face region - the first thing people judge.

I was truly unlucky.

Other things you can hide. It can be worse lads.

[garethbale]

Baldness for me is a kick in the balls to be honest. After 3 operations on my face, I can't seem to enjoy it with a NW1. The worse thing is I would do something about it if there was something safe out there; histogen would have been perfect for me as I just have slight recession around my temples.

Feel hard done.

And yes it's relative, I used my case as an example because like hairloss it is around the face region - the first thing people judge.

I was truly unlucky.

Other things you can hide. It can be worse lads.

Can I ask why you had operations on your face?

[yeahyeahyeah]

Can I ask why you had operations on your face?

I needed orthodontic work. In the process it turned out my face was very assymetric/disproportioned; jaw was out of position; chin was recessed, septum in my nose was deviated (crooked nose) and yes my teeth were shit. My face was basically crooked.

It was horrible living like under those conditions, I did manage to get a pretty girlfriend, but it was basically after a lot of hard work chasing her. Annoying - because she would easily give her number out to other guys who did a fraction of the work.

Life for ugly people is terrible. To get the same results, especially with women - you have to work twice as hard, and even then she may dump you quicker then the time you got her.

Hairloss is just a kick in the balls to be honest. Unlike the other shit, this is no easy fix - can't enjoy my new face properly.

[greatjob!]

I needed orthodontic work. In the process it turned out my face was very assymetric/disproportioned; jaw was out of position; chin was recessed, septum in my nose was deviated (crooked nose) and yes my teeth were shit. My face was basically crooked.

It was horrible living like under those conditions, I did manage to get a pretty girlfriend, but it was basically after a lot of hard work chasing her. Annoying - because she would easily give her number out to other guys who did a fraction of the work.

Life for ugly people is terrible. To get the same results, especially with women - you have to work twice as hard, and even then she may dump you quicker then the time you got her.

Hairloss is just a kick in the balls to be honest. Unlike the other shit, this is no easy fix - can't enjoy my new face properly.

No disrespect man but you put way too much value on looks. And I have seen your hairloss and it is all but non-existent, I don't see how being a NW1 could be a kick in the balls. Honestly when you posted pics of your loss I couldn't believe that you where the same person who posts on here talking about how hairloss had ruined your life, if I saw you in real life I wouldn't even classify you as someone who had lost any hair.

[yeahyeahyeah]

No disrespect man but you put way too much value on looks. And I have seen your hairloss and it is all but non-existent, I don't see how being a NW1 could be a kick in the balls. Honestly when you posted pics of your loss I couldn't believe that you where the same person who posts on here talking about how hairloss had ruined your life, if I saw you in real life I wouldn't even classify you as someone who had lost any hair.

Im a NW2 not a NW1. Dr Ferundi diagnosed me as that.

Yes, I have a lot of hair, but I have a V shape hairline, and for me anyway, I am looking to maintain more than anything. Not being able to maintain without using propecia is why its a kick in the balls.