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  • hiilikeyourbeard
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 138

    anyone know nigams pricing?

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    • x4342
      Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 55

      Originally posted by Desmond84
      Brother I completely understand and I wish I had an answer for this horrible dilemma Joe and others in his age group are in.

      I think we need to form a new thread just for those 40+ year olds that are suffering from hair loss and how they are coping with it! Their maturity and wisdom may also add huge benefits to the forum in general.

      My doctor said something about how people like that essentially needed to "make peace" with their hair loss. As much as I don't like my hair I am extremely grateful I am not one of those people who went bald in the 80s. First there was nothing they could do to stop it and they just had to accept watching the process rather than fighting back. Second, they know that even if they do eventually get full heads of hair back they will be too old to fully take advantage of it. -Definitely puts things in perspective when I am whining about my hair situation.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        Originally posted by x4342
        My doctor said something about how people like that essentially needed to "make peace" with their hair loss. As much as I don't like my hair I am extremely grateful I am not one of those people who went bald in the 80s. First there was nothing they could do to stop it and they just had to accept watching the process rather than fighting back. Second, they know that even if they do eventually get full heads of hair back they will be too old to fully take advantage of it. -Definitely puts things in perspective when I am whining about my hair situation.
        Its all relative so using the past as something to be happy about is redundant. It doesn't help the situation and you're still going to get screwed by society's shallowness.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          Aderans finally had their Clinical Trials entries updated:



          Interesting that all of the trials got completed. Now here's the thing to think about:

          Phase I and II are both complete. Why not market this in Asia right NOW as they dont require Phase III?

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          • KO1
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 805

            It would suck to get your hair back in your 70s. Once you cross 50, there is no point with hair. I wouldn't mind being bald at all over 50, I think it looks weirder for older men to have a lot of hair.

            So even if you get your hair back...you need to avoid the mental and emotional damage that comes with hair loss.

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            • x4342
              Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 55

              Originally posted by hellouser
              Its all relative so using the past as something to be happy about is redundant. It doesn't help the situation and you're still going to get screwed by society's shallowness.

              Oh, I agree that it's all relative. I generally find it annoying when someone always tries to point to worse situation.

              "You should be grateful you are only missing one arm, when you could be missing two arms!"

              "You should be grateful you are only missing two arms, when you could be missing two arms and a leg!"

              "You should be grateful you are only missing two arms and a leg when you could be missing both arms and both legs!"

              etc..
              I still think a bit of perspective helps, but I agree that ultimately it is what it is, and it still sucks.

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              • x4342
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 55

                Originally posted by KO1
                It would suck to get your hair back in your 70s. Once you cross 50, there is no point with hair. I wouldn't mind being bald at all over 50, I think it looks weirder for older men to have a lot of hair.

                So even if you get your hair back...you need to avoid the mental and emotional damage that comes with hair loss.

                Well, i don't agree with that. I think it depends on how well you take care of the rest of yourself and where the rest of your looks are at. I highly doubt Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise would feel that way.

                What I do agree with is that as you get older it's less and likely to matter. Hair loss bothers people because it essentially accelerates their loss of attractiveness and aging. At some point in life everything falls apart. Technology is slowing aging, but nobody expects to be in their prime when they are 70. When a 25 year old guy goes bald it's devastating because it has the effect of making him go from "prime" to "obviously past his prime" far too quickly. There are no 80 year old men saying "man, I am just as good looking as ever except for my hair. If only I had my perfect hair, I'd still be a 10."

                So, yeah, there's definitely a decreased need for hair as you age, but I'd always rather have perfect hair than anything. My father doesn't take care of himself at all, but his hair is a non-issue. Ronald Reagan never had to worry about his hair. Eventually everything fell apart but he always knew that his hair was never dragging him down.

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                • Vox
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 298

                  Originally posted by KO1
                  I think it looks weirder for older men to have a lot of hair.
                  I have seen one or two old men (let's say 70+) with much hair, white of course. And when I say "much hair" I mean not only density but also juvenile hairline, like 16 years old. It was pretty clear in my eyes that it was natural, but also really weird because we are not used (or trained if you wish) to such sight.

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                  • Vox
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 298

                    Originally posted by x4342
                    Well, i don't agree with that. I think it depends on how well you take care of the rest of yourself and where the rest of your looks are at.
                    Well, I am the living example among the forum members for this. Despite my age (around 45) and baldness stage (NW7), I still have very juvenile looks - nearly perfect skin condition and slender body. It is in fact embarrassing: I was told this year that under my hat I look like a graduate student! Obviously I am among the unfortunate guys that started balding during the 80's very early in their life, when there was nothing to fight back this curse.

                    So yes, give me my hair back even when I hit 50, and I will be very happy.

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                    • x4342
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 55

                      Originally posted by Vox
                      Well, I am the living example among the forum members for this. Despite my age (around 45) and baldness stage (NW7), I still have very juvenile looks - nearly perfect skin condition and slender body. It is in fact embarrassing: I was told this year that under my hat I look like a graduate student! Obviously I am among the unfortunate guys that started balding during the 80's very early in their life, when there was nothing to fight back this curse.

                      So yes, give me my hair back even when I hit 50, and I will be very happy.
                      Yes, I understand and I agree. Hair loss is a net negative. By itself it doesn't guarantee anything but there's no reason to not want it. It's like money. Money doesn't guarantee happiness but there's really no good argument for not wanting to be rich other than sour grapes arguments. A rich man can live like a poor man if he wants but a poor man can never live like a rich man.
                      A man with a full head of hair can shave his head slick bald. He can even shave the horseshoe pattern if he wants!
                      Some people aren't very attractive. Having hair probably isn't going to help them at any age. That doesn't change the fact that it's always better to have hair because it simply eliminates the issue.
                      I'd rather be a poor 20 year old man than a rich 80 year old. But obviously I'd rather be a rich 20 year old than a poor 20 year old and a rich 80 year old than a poor 80 year old.
                      I'd rather be Jason Statham than Michael Moore. You can be bald/balding and very popular with the ladies. It doesn't change the fact that I would rather be Jason Statham with a full head of hair than current Jason Statham.

                      The issue is simply making it a non-issue!
                      When I was 22 I was busy and stressed. I was studying during the day and working at night. I also had a full head of hair. Did I obsess over it and spend hours combing it? No, I just never thought about it. It was a non-issue. That's where I want to be again. Whether I'm 21 or 60 I don't want to think about my hair. Obviously, like money, you enjoy it more when you are younger but it's always better to simply not have to deal with the issue.

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                      • KO1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 805

                        Meh. If I'm 70+ and my biggest concern is MPB....I will be happy. At some point you need to accept that your looks will fade. And presumably I won't be trying to bang 20 yo girls....though it would be nice lol.

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                        • UK_
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2691

                          Wtf is everyone talking about now?

                          When are they going to upload the God damn show where Spencer talks about Aderans' "phone call"?

                          Fat chance of getting a kickstarter up & running.

                          I tried that for Histogen and got practically ignored by everyone.

                          Useless.

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                          • Pentarou
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 482

                            Originally posted by UK_
                            Wtf is everyone talking about now?

                            When are they going to upload the God damn show where Spencer talks about Aderans' "phone call"?

                            Fat chance of getting a kickstarter up & running.

                            I tried that for Histogen and got practically ignored by everyone.

                            Useless.
                            Dead depressing that the patents for ARI's Ji Gami will be locked away in some vault, figuratively speaking, never to see the light of day. Makes me concerned for what will be the eventual fate of Histogen, Replicel, etc...

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                            • Thinning87
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 839

                              Originally posted by Pentarou
                              Dead depressing that the patents for ARI's Ji Gami will be locked away in some vault, figuratively speaking, never to see the light of day. Makes me concerned for what will be the eventual fate of Histogen, Replicel, etc...
                              Pentarau your constant pessimism and self pity make you too much of a f.aggot anyways, all the hair in the world wouldn't help you, you'll always be this way. You don't deserve to be cured.

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                              • KO1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 805

                                Originally posted by Thinning87
                                Pentarau your constant pessimism and self pity make you too much of a f.aggot anyways, all the hair in the world wouldn't help you, you'll always be this way. You don't deserve to be cured.
                                Meh, let's be serious, we're all depressed to some extent.

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