Cure for baldness = Pilofocus + SMP Tatoo + Hairstyle !

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  • youngin
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 338

    #31
    Originally posted by hellouser
    If you were to take 50% of follicles from all around your head in the DHT-Free zone, would it be anywhere near 12,000 thousand grafts in total to cover the entire top of a NW6?

    Each case is different, some men would require 12k, others 15k and then it also depends on desired density...
    That sounds like something Hasson & Wong do now in a few surgeries with strip and still have hair left in the back. There's so many options with surgery right now. You just have to have the money for it.

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    • Conpecia
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 904

      #32
      Originally posted by Phatalis
      Cause it's disgusting dude. It's like lying.. you're ****ing lying about having hair. It's like those things fat people wear to pretend to be skinny

      its gross
      not as gross as bein baaaaaaaaaaaald...

      if you're a single dude not lookin for a longterm gf i'd say get one as long as it's undetectable.

      i mean celebs are doing it left and right, openly wearing them and not giving a **** because they look better. check kevin spacey and george costanza himself... think people don't know george costanza is bald or something?

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      • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 638

        #33
        check enrique iglesias , i love that toupee

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        • samian
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 4

          #34
          Originally posted by Conpecia
          not as gross as bein baaaaaaaaaaaald...

          if you're a single dude not lookin for a longterm gf i'd say get one as long as it's undetectable.
          What the hell, what if you met someone though? You really want to be single your whole life over being bald? I find your priorities very strange.

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          • sausage
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1063

            #35
            Originally posted by hellouser
            If you were to take 50% of follicles from all around your head in the DHT-Free zone, would it be anywhere near 12,000 thousand grafts in total to cover the entire top of a NW6?

            Each case is different, some men would require 12k, others 15k and then it also depends on desired density...
            As you said.....it depends on the patient. I don't know the percentage of donor hair of which surgeons usually take etc etc.......

            Again the final result does not necessarily have to be as good as those in the hair cut examples.....IMO and in my case....a bit of recession or thinness would not be an issue, coverage is the most important thing, not density....

            This concept is simply a way of getting at least a few extra 1000 grafts from the donor area.....from examples I have seen 8000 grafts is enough to achieve a respectable result on a NW6.

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            • KO1
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 805

              #36
              Do this:

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #37
                Originally posted by sausage
                This concept is simply a way of getting at least a few extra 1000 grafts from the donor area.....from examples I have seen 8000 grafts is enough to achieve a respectable result on a NW6.
                Doesn't the average person have about 5-6,000 grafts as donor?

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                • sausage
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1063

                  #38
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  Doesn't the average person have about 5-6,000 grafts as donor?
                  I was told 4000-8000.

                  But when do surgeons go 'ahhh that's enough we can't extract anymore'.......They still want the donor to look natural and not overly thin.

                  But for those few of us that need more than normally advised.........why not go further and take a few more thousand grafts.......

                  If the patient wants to keep the sides and back really short then will density matter as much as maybe it won't be noticeable at short lengths? if it does look too thin....get SMP.

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                  • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 638

                    #39
                    hey sausage i dont htink its about the grafts rather than it is about the graft ratio. how many hairs a graft has average and ofcourse average hair diameter, these factors give huge difference in results..

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                    • fred970
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 922

                      #40
                      Some sufferers just don't deserve solutions. Even when we will get to the point where donor doubling is possible (if it happens someday), there will be people bitching about it here, "it's not enough" or "do you know the average person have 100000 hairs, it looks ridiculous!"

                      We have FDA approved drugs, SMP, FUE, soon pilofocus, BHT, concealers like Dermatch and Toppik, (partial) hairpieces, but apparently it will never be enough for some people. It seems that they need to feel desperate, and they need to drag others down with them.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #41
                        Originally posted by fred970
                        Some sufferers just don't deserve solutions. Even when we will get to the point where donor doubling is possible (if it happens someday), there will be people bitching about it here, "it's not enough" or "do you know the average person have 100000 hairs, it looks ridiculous!"

                        We have FDA approved drugs, SMP, FUE, soon pilofocus, BHT, concealers like Dermatch and Toppik, (partial) hairpieces, but apparently it will never be enough for some people. It seems that they need to feel desperate, and they need to drag others down with them.
                        It will be enough when we get 60-90 grafts/ cm2, which is our normal hair density. Until that day comes, all the treatments suck balls.. and they do suck balls, because none of them work as well as anyone would like, none of them completely halt hair loss and none of them restore hair loss back to NW0.

                        Your downplaying the situation and being passive as hair loss sufferer.

                        Fact is, we should have had a solid solution a LONG time ago. Had it not been for biblethumping shitheads stalling stem cell research, the FDA forcing everyone to jump through hoops and SkinMedica ROYALLY screwing over Histogen with both of their BADLY FAILED lawsuits, we may have had something a lot better than lousy stone age hair transplants at the expense of donor hair.

                        That is NOTHING to boast about.

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                        • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 638

                          #42
                          hell i feel you bro

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                          • sausage
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1063

                            #43
                            Originally posted by fred970
                            Some sufferers just don't deserve solutions. Even when we will get to the point where donor doubling is possible (if it happens someday), there will be people bitching about it here, "it's not enough" or "do you know the average person have 100000 hairs, it looks ridiculous!"

                            We have FDA approved drugs, SMP, FUE, soon pilofocus, BHT, concealers like Dermatch and Toppik, (partial) hairpieces, but apparently it will never be enough for some people. It seems that they need to feel desperate, and they need to drag others down with them.
                            I don't know if you are a troll or you really believe what you just wrote...

                            Some sufferers don't deserve solutions. WTF? Seriously!

                            Of course current 'hairloss treatments' are not good enough.

                            To start of with......

                            -A cure for baldness does not even exist.

                            -FDA approved drugs only work for some people.

                            -People with high Norwood's cannot get back complete coverage at good density.

                            -Not to mention it costs a frigging fortune for surgery and treatments.

                            How can everyone be happy.


                            I'd be happy if there was a cure with one off treatment for £10,000. And by cure I mean something that can achieve at least 90% of what I had before loss.

                            Right now it would cost me £20,000 - £30,000 for something half decent + having to go through a barbaric process to achieve it.

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                            • fred970
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 922

                              #44
                              I'm not a troll, I just state that sufferers should be grateful for what is available in 2013, let alone this forum.

                              My father started to bald at 17 in 1979. What solutions did you have by that time? None people would say here, but it's not true. He started wearing a partial hair piece in 1980 and is still wearing a full one today. He managed to live a decent life, a decent youth, with normal hair, no one ever suspected he was wearing a piece. What I'm saying is that, some people will never be happy, no matter what advances we make.

                              They expect a "cure" with no downsides. That will never happen.

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                              • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 638

                                #45
                                it will and it already almost happened ,,,
                                Originally posted by fred970
                                I'm not a troll, I just state that sufferers should be grateful for what is available in 2013, let alone this forum.

                                My father started to bald at 17 in 1979. What solutions did you have by that time? None people would say here, but it's not true. He started wearing a partial hair piece in 1980 and is still wearing a full one today. He managed to live a decent life, a decent youth, with normal hair, no one ever suspected he was wearing a piece. What I'm saying is that, some people will never be happy, no matter what advances we make.

                                They expect a "cure" with no downsides. That will never happen.

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