CG 210 w/ link to before/after pics

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  • rm056789
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    Seems legit!

    This was presented at the 7th Annual World Congress for Hair Restoration:
    Their abstract can be found below:

    A randomized, double-blind, and placebo-controlled 12-month efficacy study of CG 210 on hair diameter in male alopecia subjects already using Finasteride 1 mg
    A Takeda1, S Harti2, J Liu2, L Zhang3 and A Sato4 1School of Medicine, Kitasato University, Kanagawa, Japan; 2Legacy Healthcare, Lausanne, Switzerland; 3Legacy Healthcare, Lausanne, Switzerland and 4Tokyo Memorial Clinic, Tokyo, Japan
    Study rationale: Finesteride is often regarded as first-line treatment for male patients with androgenic alopecia (AGA). However, after several years of treatment, patients often reach a plateau.

    CG210 is a GMP-grade topical botanical blend that has clinically demonstrated its efficacy to reestablish regular A/T ratio (and hence normal hair cycle) in AGA sufferers within 44 days. Its unique clinically validated mechanisms of action are: preventing premature apoptosis of cells in hair follicles; reducing micro-inflammation in the scalp, and increasing collagen content. We would expect to get a beneficial effect when combining oral Finasteride 1 mg (acting on androgens) with topical CG210 (acting on apoptosis and micro-inflammation, two key factors causing hair loss).

    Hair diameter is an accurate clinical parameter for hair miniaturization (larger diameter=longer anagen phase=improved proportion of anagen vs telogen hair (A/T ratio)). An increase in hair diameter should also affect the cosmetic appearance and hair volume.

    Objective: To evaluate the clinical effect of the topical anti-hair loss CG210 vs placebo on hair diameter in Japanese AGA patients already using Finasteride 1 mg for >3 years.

    Study design: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, single-center, prospective, with two parallel groups.

    Group A: Topical placebo provided to nine male alopecia subjects already taking Finasteride 1 mg treatment for >3 years.

    Group B: Topical CG210 provided to seven male alopecia subjects already taking Finasteride 1 mg treatment for >3 years.

    Results: Mean diameter of hair in the Finesteride+topical CG210 group versus Finesteride+placebo group increased by 36.9%. No adverse events were observed.

    Conclusion: Application of topical CG210 in combination with Finasteride 1 mg demonstrated a statistically and clinically significant improvement in hair diameter and overall cosmetic appearance. Therefore, CG210 offers AGA sufferers an effective option to be used either alone to prevent and stop excessive hair loss or in combination with Finasteride to enhance patient outcome.


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  • Bocaj
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    Originally posted by Ginkosama
    Indeed, impressive lotion, growing at least 10 cm of hair in previously bald spots. And in only for 4 months, with a product with next to no science behind it, while normal hair usually grows at a maximulm rate of 1.5 cm a month.


    Screw baldness, just start a religion man, there is money to be made.
    Actually, at ************ with the exact type of picture he made a 3 month claim.

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  • Bocaj
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    Doke for cripes sake..you've asked these same questions before. Did you miss my post replying to yours pointing out he didn't answer YOUR questions(in this very thread)- which were about mine?

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  • doke
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    Originally posted by habemus
    Claramente,estas imagens,com distância entre elas de 4 meses,esclarecem o que esta loção conseguiu em tão pouco tempo.

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    Clearly, these images, with the distance between them 4 months, clarify what this lotion has achieved in such a short time.

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    hi how many months have you been on cg210 up to today and have you experienced more hair regrowth after the above picture? are you satisfied with just using cg or are you going to add propecia? have you any new uptodate pictures? would be good if you could do a you tube video as well.

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  • Ginkosama
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    Indeed, impressive lotion, growing at least 10 cm of hair in previously bald spots. And in only for 4 months, with a product with next to no science behind it, while normal hair usually grows at a maximulm rate of 1.5 cm a month.


    Screw baldness, just start a religion man, there is money to be made.

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  • habemus
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    Claramente,estas imagens,com distância entre elas de 4 meses,esclarecem o que esta loção conseguiu em tão pouco tempo.

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    Clearly, these images, with the distance between them 4 months, clarify what this lotion has achieved in such a short time.

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    Last edited by Winston; 07-12-2013, 08:24 AM. Reason: Bold text change.

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  • Bocaj
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    I think this is BS to be honest, after doing some more research the guy seems like a shill.
    And yet........

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  • Bocaj
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    Originally posted by doke
    hi hab you have not answered jacob at ************ forum on your pics i am sceptical as well as we need full view of scalp from front to back,as some claims of new hair growth could be very fine male pattern miniaturisation.
    And he didn't bother to respond to you on this, either.

    For those who don't know- Habemus' posts have since been deleted at ***..and my guess is he's been banned there.

    Here are the questions I asked him numerous times that he constantly ignored and instead kept posting the same pictures he'd been posting for months:

    Why do you try to get away with using 3 of the same picture to show your early progress?

    Why do you lie about time frames- we all know hair does not grow that fast in 3 months.

    And if we really want to get brave- explain why, Habemus, you refused to post pictures that we requested, and instead just kept posting the same pictures you've posted before? We now see, with the link TN provided, that you indeed do have/use a comb-over. So I've just answered my own question..but I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd LOVE to hear/read your excuse.

    Why do some of your "after" pictures show a fairly full crown of hair, when others do not?

    Why is it that in various other forums your posts have been deleted or edited out and/or you've been banned? (which, as I said above..just happened again)

    Jacob

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  • habemus
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    Podes fixar aquela marca escura dentro de um círculo. Compara uma e outra foto,esquece o ângulo e a iluminação e,olha bem. Eu vejo recrescimento.!!!
    Entre uma e outra foto existem 4 meses e 10 dias de distância.

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    You can fix that dark mark inside a circle. Compares one and another picture, forget the angle and lighting, and looks good. I see regrowth.!!
    Between one and another picture there 4 months and 10 days away.

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  • habemus
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    Originally posted by doke
    many thanks hab for answering my questions im puzzled by jacob as hairsite as he is into natural treatments but seems to think your a shill? can you tell me why he seems to be hassling you on that site?


    Francamente eu não sei. Em todos os foruns há sempre alguem que prefere ter aquele comportamento "taliban",terrorismo puro contra alguem que apresenta resultado com um produto que para eles é impensável ser conseguido.
    Todos aqui sabem que cada caso é um caso.Um produto pode resultar em alguns e em outros não. No meu caso , e só uso esta loção,os resultados são os que eu relato nas fotos que apresentei lá.
    Dentro de 20 dias terei 5 meses de aplicação e motrarei os ganhos conseguidos.

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    Frankly I do not know. In all forums there is always someone who prefers to have that behavior "Taliban" pure terrorism against someone who presents results with a product that is unthinkable for them to be achieved.
    Everyone here knows that each case is a caso.Um product may result in some and not in others. In my case, and only use this lotion, the results are reported in the photos that I have presented here.
    Within 20 days I will have five months of application and motrarei the gains.

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    Last edited by Winston; 07-12-2013, 08:25 AM. Reason: Bold text change.

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  • doke
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    Originally posted by habemus
    Eu já relatei anteriormente que nunca usei minox nem finasteride.Não uso finasteride porque na minha idade não tem relevância no DHT. Preferi usar uma loção com efeito semelhante ao "minox" mas sem possiveis efeitos colaterais e ficar minox-dependente.
    Sobre ter fotos no site,isso deve-se a uma campanha que qualquer um pode conseguir se colocar fotos do ANTES e DEPOIS .Leiam os termos e condições.
    Sou um como qualquer um de voces que experimentou e está a ter resultados. Não os devo partilhar com voces? Não querem ver recrescimento? Ok..ok..ok!
    O que interessa é o meu resultado e a minha satisfação.

    Desejo que tenha, sorte com os vossas tratamentos.

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    I've reported earlier that never used minox or finasteride.Não use finasteride because at my age has no relevance in the DHT. Preferred to use a lotion with similar effect to "minox" but without possible side effects and get minox dependent.
    About having photos on the site, this is due to a campaign that anyone can achieve to put photos of BEFORE and AFTER. Read the terms and conditions.
    I'ma as any of you who are experienced and have the results. I do not share with you? Do not want to see regrowth? Okay. .. Ok ok!
    What matters is my result and my satisfaction.

    I wish you luck with your treatments.


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    many thanks hab for answering my questions im puzzled by jacob as hairsite as he is into natural treatments but seems to think your a shill? can you tell me why he seems to be hassling you on that site?

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  • habemus
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    Originally posted by doke
    hab i have to ask have you used minoxidil if so would you say that cg210 was better or same? and also we know you have pictures on the legacy web site are you getting any money or free products for this.

    Eu já relatei anteriormente que nunca usei minox nem finasteride.Não uso finasteride porque na minha idade não tem relevância no DHT. Preferi usar uma loção com efeito semelhante ao "minox" mas sem possiveis efeitos colaterais e ficar minox-dependente.
    Sobre ter fotos no site,isso deve-se a uma campanha que qualquer um pode conseguir se colocar fotos do ANTES e DEPOIS .Leiam os termos e condições.
    Sou um como qualquer um de voces que experimentou e está a ter resultados. Não os devo partilhar com voces? Não querem ver recrescimento? Ok..ok..ok!
    O que interessa é o meu resultado e a minha satisfação.

    Desejo que tenha, sorte com os vossas tratamentos.

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    I've reported earlier that never used minox or finasteride.Não use finasteride because at my age has no relevance in the DHT. Preferred to use a lotion with similar effect to "minox" but without possible side effects and get minox dependent.
    About having photos on the site, this is due to a campaign that anyone can achieve to put photos of BEFORE and AFTER. Read the terms and conditions.
    I'ma as any of you who are experienced and have the results. I do not share with you? Do not want to see regrowth? Okay. .. Ok ok!
    What matters is my result and my satisfaction.

    I wish you luck with your treatments.


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    Last edited by Winston; 07-12-2013, 08:24 AM. Reason: Bold text change.

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  • doke
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    hab i have to ask have you used minoxidil if so would you say that cg210 was better or same? and also we know you have pictures on the legacy web site are you getting any money or free products for this.

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  • habemus
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    Habemus, please don't be offended. We are simply very skeptical because most people in your situation are in fact not telling the truth. The level of proof is very high. You should not take it personally. You are good to document your results. At this point I personally am going to wait for others who are using this to also have similar results. Perhaps you are a good responder to this treatment. Please feel free to continue updating here and we will continue to look at your photos.



    Your words are wise and educated. I'm skeptical! How do you guys do with other products I did with this lotion. Meeting results and make my free account.
    I show pictures I think I present and not the whim of a few. Put gradually, with photos, results that meet in different areas of the scalp.
    Those who here use finasteride, minoxidil and other drugs "Jurassic" I have photos to see, show me, I want to see if they can like my results in a relatively short time.
    I look forward to see!!.

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  • Conpecia
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    Originally posted by habemus
    Why so many questions about my result?
    My photo BEFORE clearly shows that had regrowth with CG 210. I have 4 months of use and a few days and I am satisfied.

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    Habemus, please don't be offended. We are simply very skeptical because most people in your situation are in fact not telling the truth. The level of proof is very high. You should not take it personally. You are good to document your results. At this point I personally am going to wait for others who are using this to also have similar results. Perhaps you are a good responder to this treatment. Please feel free to continue updating here and we will continue to look at your photos.

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