Conpecia's Indo/Chromo/Minox Log

[Conpecia]

Its crazy how itchy the indo is. The weird thing is, at least for me, it itches as soon as you put it on. I may just do the indo since its just the anti-inflammatory and use the chromo everyday...can't deal with this itchin!

I'm guessing its ok to wash this stuff out an hour or 2 after application? I would think they would be fully absorbed by then...

I know man! I had this momentary fear that it was just burning my hairline away or that I had sped up the mpb process ten-fold! Glad to know I'm not alone.

Also, great question about washing it out; I'd like to do that: apply right after work then rinse out before bed and apply minox.

And yes guys, Iron Dragon is US based and I also got mine super-quick with 8 dollar shipping. No hassle whatsoever.

I have medium length hair and am also needing more than two squirts to get coverage. I use two squirts on the hairline, A squirt in the center of my head, and a squirt on the crown, then rub it all in. A lot gets in my hair; considering using a dropper for better penetration.

Desmond:I'm at work now but will get the bottle and read the exact solution to ya.

Glad to see people getting onboard with this. If you guys check out the CET thread I also updated there because over at the *** forum I bumped the PGD2 thread and five or six guys immediately said that CET has HALTED their hairloss, these are guys who have been on CET since 2012!! Problem is no regrowth

Supposing this does halt loss, we need to start thinking of possible regrowth agents right now so that we can incorporate them.

[baldnotbeautiful]

Well, after about an hour the itchy-ness went away for me. I guess once it fulled absorbed in, thankfully. Hair is still greasy as hell, no way I could go out like this, or let my gf see me...haha, so I'll definitely be washing it out after about an hour on the days I use the indo(few times a week).

Soon as the PHG GB finally finishes I'll have some Minox Sulphate that I'll be trying for regrowth

Still wondering if I should use an AA too with this. I have some RU, but I've been gettin sides. I may try a very low dose, but I'll probably wait a few weeks to see if I notice anything with this first.

[Conpecia]

Rant:

Whoever says this shit stops shedding in 3 days is a ****ing moron. Just lost about 25 hairs in the shower, more than I've lost in weeks. Top of my head is red from indo I guess, feels like a sunburn. Hair looks like shit, not sure why I'm even trying to hang on at this point.

Rogaine has done **** all for me, waste of ****ing money. Is it seriously 2013? I could understand if this was 1993 but Jesus Christ I'm doing all this on a cell phone, talking to people all over the world. It's pathetic that we should be enduring this. I'm getting a hair system if it gets worse. Refuse to walk around like a giant ****ing egg, don't give a **** how vain that is.

[StayThick]

Rant:

Whoever says this shit stops shedding in 3 days is a ****ing moron. Just lost about 25 hairs in the shower, more than I've lost in weeks. Top of my head is red from indo I guess, feels like a sunburn. Hair looks like shit, not sure why I'm even trying to hang on at this point.

Rogaine has done **** all for me, waste of ****ing money. Is it seriously 2013? I could understand if this was 1993 but Jesus Christ I'm doing all this on a cell phone, talking to people all over the world. It's pathetic that we should be enduring this. I'm getting a hair system if it gets worse. Refuse to walk around like a giant ****ing egg, don't give a **** how vain that is.

Have you considered an FUE transplant? Rahal, Gho, etc?

My hair is also getting worse and nothing currently available will regrow my temples or hairline.

I'm starting to look at a more permanent solution. Tired of experimenting with drugs and doing god knows what to my body.

[Conpecia]

Have you considered an FUE transplant? Rahal, Gho, etc?

My hair is also getting worse and nothing currently available will regrow my temples or hairline.

I'm starting to look at a more permanent solution. Tired of experimenting with drugs and doing god knows what to my body.

I'm definitely doing it when I have the money, but money is really slow right now for me. Hopefully by 2015 I'll be making plenty and will be able to get an awesome frontal ht.

Right now I just have to keep what I have, but it's going so much faster now that I can't take dht-blockers.

I just studied my hairline area for a good 5 minutes and I have tons of tiny little vellus hairs, but they're definitely pigmented. What's the deal with this? Aren't vellus hairs supposed to be blonde? They're like super-thin dark hairs and some are coming in longer than others, but the only way to see them is to put my head right up near a lightbulb. Tried taking pics and couldn't get em...

[Conpecia]

Ok men, time for an update:

guess i'm pushing two weeks on i/c combo and minox, have not applied i/c as faithfully as i should because i'm getting a weird sore throat that was mentioned in another forum. that guy's went away some i'm pretty sure there's nothing to fear long term. but i have decided to stick with every other day just to be sure, even that is better than nothing.

what i'd really like to know is the following:

1) can we wash this stuff off after a couple hours, or do we need to leave it in all night?
2) do we have to take it every day, or does every other day suffice?

desmond, boldy, and other bio/chem guys feel free to weigh in with any thoughts regarding half life and what not.

as far as hair goes, i'm still losing it, steadily shedding every day. i'm also recently on regenepure which has dht blockers, so maybe a shed induced by that? not really sure but this will be my regimen for the next 6 months, so we'll definitely know by then if it's a shed or just plain old mpb. my crown feels pretty thin, i don't know if you guys have this but i feel like i go through stages of baldness-recognition, like suddenly i'm at a certain hair loss level, and i stay there for a few months, then suddenly i'm at a worse level without it seeming like there was any loss in between. so i've just had one of those moments regarding my top and crown and it's got me pretty worried.

on the positive side, i'm slowly responding to minox on my hairline. my temples have thin, terminal hairs and my forehead has vellus hair all the way down to my original hairline. i doubt the i/c combo is really helping this but i'm not sure. however, it's NOTHING to get excited about. i literally cannot capture a photograph of the vellus hairs. nobody freak out, i've seen way better regrowth on guys taking fin and minox, and i've been on minox for about 4 months pretty regularly.

i swear i will take pictures if there's any progress worth showing you guys. right now it's pretty much the same.

[dipship31]

Hello, I just joined the site after browsing for a few weeks and this "cutting edge" forum has been very hopeful to read! It also got me to try the indo/chromo combo. I've been on it now for 4 days and I think I'm getting the same stuff you've had Con. The itching hasn't been terrible, but I think I'm on a shed. Has anyone else had any side effects? I tried FIN about a month ago, but could only get 2 weeks into it. I was getting major fatigue from it and was basically a zombie at work which I couldn't have so I had to stop. Now I'm starting to feel the same fatigue symptoms on this indo/chromo regimen! Has anyone else heard of fatigue side effects from it?

[Conpecia]

Nope haven't been fatigued from it, not that I can tell at least. Only sides are the itchiness and a weird sore throat. Shedding may have stopped too, not noticing any hairs today at all.

And for anyone interested, Regenepure is a pretty solid shampoo regardless of whether it actually helps with DHT. Having one of the best hair days I've had in a while today.

[LongWayHome]

Hello there Con, I just got the I/C either, and I wonder if only I think that the smell is kinda weird, even stinky?
Anyway I'm only on minox 15% one time a day - nights.

I would report but I'm not a fan of taking photos, so, as you say "picture or didn't happen", and I agree with you 100%.

This is my last resort, after that I'll have to go back to fin and poison my body to death. Lets pray.

[Conpecia]

Hello there Con, I just got the I/C either, and I wonder if only I think that the smell is kinda weird, even stinky?
Anyway I'm only on minox 15% one time a day - nights.

I would report but I'm not a fan of taking photos, so, as you say "picture or didn't happen", and I agree with you 100%.

This is my last resort, after that I'll have to go back to fin and poison my body to death. Lets pray.

Hey dude, welcome aboard. Yeah I'll have to go back to low dose fin if this fails, really hoping we stop our loss here...

Don't think mine smells too bad but it's all relative. The indo is a weird gold color and def has an odor, but I've smelled much weirder stuff (capillogain). Awesome that you're on minox 15%, might have to jump on that myself. Good luck!

[dipship31]

Nope haven't been fatigued from it, not that I can tell at least. Only sides are the itchiness and a weird sore throat. Shedding may have stopped too, not noticing any hairs today at all.

And for anyone interested, Regenepure is a pretty solid shampoo regardless of whether it actually helps with DHT. Having one of the best hair days I've had in a while today.

Has that weird sore throat gone away? I'm hoping these are just weird early side effects that wear off. Are any of the ingredients in indo/chromo in FIN? The last thing I expected when I started this indo/chromo regimen was the same fatigue I got on fin!

I'll also give that Regenepure a try. I don't care if it's actually helping DHT or not, but if it makes your hair look better why not use it!

[chimera]

It's strange, as fatigue is not even listed as a side effect of oral indomethacin, let alone indomethacin in topical form. Maybe it is the cromoglycate, but I don't really know the side effects of cromoglicate.

[clandestine]

So everyone here has purchased from ID?

[Conpecia]

Should we make a separate thread called "Iron Dragon Indo/Chromo Results" where we can all update? I'm cool with having all you guys update here of course, just figured others might not find them.

[clandestine]

Nah this is fine.

I think I'm going to purchase; it'll be a little expensive to maintain, though.
How long should a bottle last?