Dr. Cotsarelis New Discovery that may finally cure Baldness (June 3rd, 2013)

[TravisB]

obviously just talking theory here, wouldn't a dermaroller be good enough? then simply applying the fgf9 stimulating drug on top of the wound?

this stuff sounds solid in theory, see if it actually works, any volunteers?

Lol, that's actually a good idea

But where the hell can we buy fgf9?

[rdawg]

buy fgf9, needles, syringes, alcohol pads and a dermaroller, to create the wounds. no need to wait 10 years, hahahaha.

obviously just talking theory here, wouldn't a dermaroller be good enough? then simply applying the fgf9 stimulating drug on top of the wound?

this stuff sounds solid in theory, see if it actually works, any volunteers?

also any chemists, pharmacists, dr's etc. that know the potential danger of injecting this stuff?

[oppenheimer82]

Huh, so Follica isn't dead afterall?

Good.

But as always, most likely nothing will come from it (at least not in the next 10 years)

buy fgf9, needles, syringes, alcohol pads and a dermaroller, to create the wounds. no need to wait 10 years, hahahaha.

[The Alchemist]

certainly only with wounding. It appears that fgf9 takes advantage of a small time window in which skin cells are in a healing stage, which closely resembles an embryonic stage and triggers the skin cells to form new follicles during that period.

In other words treatment with fgf9 is timed with the wounding phase.

Yes!

[TravisB]

Huh, so Follica isn't dead afterall?

Good.

But as always, most likely nothing will come from it (at least not in the next 10 years)

[Westonci]

I meant they need to find drugs that stimulate Fgf9.

And you do have to damage the tissue, however, based on the do it yourself experiments that were going on back when Follica was going at it with the lithium approach, it's not hard to do. I do believe some guys were getting a little growth with wounding - they were, believe it or not, lightly sandpapering areas of their noggin and applying lithium gel or whatever.

certainly only with wounding. It appears that fgf9 takes advantage of a small time window in which skin cells are in a healing stage, which closely resembles an embryonic stage and triggers the skin cells to form new follicles during that period.

In other words treatment with fgf9 is timed with the wounding phase.

[The Alchemist]

What has FGf9 in it? where do you get this?

isn't it also an issue that you'd have to damage that area of the skin to cause new follicles? just taking FGF9 may not doing anything!

I meant they need to find drugs that stimulate Fgf9 - the links to Cot's paper has the info.

And you do have to damage the tissue, however, based on the do it yourself experiments that were going on back when Follica was going at it with the lithium approach, it's not hard to do. I do believe some guys were getting a little growth with wounding - they were, believe it or not, lightly sandpapering areas of their noggin and applying lithium gel or whatever.

[Westonci]

What has FGf9 in it? where do you get this?

isn't it also an issue that you'd have to damage that area of the skin to cause new follicles? just taking FGF9 may not doing anything!

This article kind of explains what Fgf9 is and its function.

http://www.dnaindia.com/health/1842993/report-why-humans-don-t-regenerate-hair-after-wounding

[rdawg]

The do it yourself'ers need to get cracking on Fgf9 drugs!

What has FGf9 in it? where do you get this?

isn't it also an issue that you'd have to damage that area of the skin to cause new follicles? just taking FGF9 may not doing anything!

[MrBlonde]

Is this ever going to come to market though?

I think when it does all of us will be slick

[The Alchemist]

I guess Follica's going to rewind the tape back to 2008 and start over.

Nice to see that they are definitively saying they can create "new" hair follicles. Which is a much better starting point than where they began with the lithium wounding approach. Let's hope that they have good success with a commercially available compound!

The do it yourself'ers need to get cracking on Fgf9 drugs!

[rdawg]

Alright so i should just cut off a layer of skin, inject this stuff and voila my hair is back!

no but really this sounds promising, and any good news no matter how far the product may be away is still great.

They are figuring it out, it's taking far, far too long, but people are putting in work to get this solved.

What I can hope is they discover something that we can actually get our hands on, rather than some kind of injection or weird protein we cant touch.

[KJ1982]

Of course, the fact that the next step is using "a specific, well-known and studied drug" makes it all the more exciting; should it prove successful then, hopefully, it would mean that it could potentially be a lot sooner in becoming a commercial product due to not having to undergo trials specific to the drug.

Of course, that's a far off and not yet guaranteed possibility but fingers crossed...

[Westonci]

Very exciting stuff. It's taking time but with each new piece of information, no matter how slight, it's another step in the right direction...

This is a very exciting! This solves the mystery of the WNT induced hair regeneration after wounding they announced in 2007


Circa 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V64ht1r8APo

[KJ1982]

Very exciting stuff. It's taking time but with each new piece of information, no matter how slight, it's another step in the right direction...