Dr. Cotsarelis New Discovery that may finally cure Baldness (June 3rd, 2013)

[KO1]

Follica has NOT tested this procedure in humans. The only procedure they did so far was a wounding+lithium trial in 2010, and they have not released results.

https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/trial/2009-018191-34/DE

This trial involved wounding + twice daily applications of lithium gluconate.

As for whether this can be a DIY - many think yes. As for how deep? The clinical trial above notes two possible depths - one is just enough to remove epidermis, the other to get deep enough down to the subcutaneous fat.

What do we know we need?
1) Wounding
2) Wnt
3) Inhibit PGD2
4) FGF9

[clandestine]

Every discovery helps really.

[TravisB]

I've been finding and reading reports from Dr. Cotsarelis his 'revolutionary discoveries' for years on message boards which were posted back in 2004 and users praying and hoping for "in 10 years from now..."

With all due respect for Dr. Cotsarelis his research, it always helps to know more on a long term, but these kind of reports no longer make me warm or cold. Whether is between 10 or 10000000 years, there will be a cure one day. But I'm no longer getting my hopes up on a short term solution until I actually see proof.

This.

This isn't the first time Cotsarelis made a "breakthrough" discovery, and so far nothing useful came out of them.

[Conpecia]

I don't check BTT for two days and they cure baldness. Fml.

[Morbo]

I've been finding and reading reports from Dr. Cotsarelis his 'revolutionary discoveries' for years on message boards which were posted back in 2004 and users praying and hoping for "in 10 years from now..."

With all due respect for Dr. Cotsarelis his research, it always helps to know more on a long term, but these kind of reports no longer make me warm or cold. Whether is between 10 or 10000000 years, there will be a cure one day. But I'm no longer getting my hopes up on a short term solution until I actually see proof.

[clandestine]

Amen hellouser.

[Thinning87]

ah well, I say it's a matter ofjust a few years.

By the way does anyone know when/where Spencer will upload new content? So much stuff going on, and he did indeed mention an interview with David Hall he must have had before the latest announcements, it'd be interesting to hear his take on all this stuff that is happening

[hellouser]

You regrew a lot of hair on RU. Do you not feel you are winning the fight for now?

Well my density is still lower than what it was before AGA kicked me in the ass. I definitely am putting up a good fight against AGA however its not my ideal result, but overall I'm not complaining too much about the density as nobody can tell I'm balding in the crown/vertex. Only my hairline and temples are now a 'visible problem'

I'll be honest, I'm hard on myself and strive for the best result/treatment/cure possible. Therefor I won't be happy until I get a complete reversal but not just for myself but for all you guys as well.... we shouldnt even have to be on this forum, we should be out enjoying life, going swimming, having confidence in meeting women without that elephant in the room staring at your scalp. We deserve better than the shallowness of society, gimping us at first glance.

[MrBlonde]

Doesn't matter, we're still bald/balding.

You regrew a lot of hair on RU. Do you not feel you are winning the fight for now?

[hellouser]

Just when Histogen seems to have let us down this pops up.

Is it a case of "Hope springs eternal" or “Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man”

Doesn't matter, we're still bald/balding.

[MrBlonde]

Just when Histogen seems to have let us down this pops up.

Is it a case of "Hope springs eternal" or “Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man”

[hellouser]

and how do you know that's the right level of wounding? and at what point in time to apply the cream or whatever thing you come up with that contains the right amount of the new growth factor

Thats where the other forums with group buys and guys willing to try this stuff out will come of GREAT value to everyone. Vehicles, mixtures, applications, sources, etc will be experimented until we know what doesnt work and what MAY work.

[szn]

so does this have to go through 4 years of trials?

[Thinning87]

Dermaroller.

and how do you know that's the right level of wounding? and at what point in time to apply the cream or whatever thing you come up with that contains the right amount of the new growth factor

[hellouser]

so grounds for cautious optimism?

YUP! Nothing wrong with that as long as its cautious/realistic optimism.

If the results are good, we just need to find a way to mimic the application using the same stuff.