Pure HM result @ drnigams with forum member as witness

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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    #31
    Originally posted by Breaking Bald

    Dr Nigam, are you going to reply to my original questions?
    Don’t worry - he will offer you abundant enough orange sherbet … and/or a piece of gum.

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    • KO1
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 805

      #32
      One thing that makes Dr Nigam seem more genuine is the fact that he doesn't believe people who have had HT's will see good results with the HM procedures due to the microscarring. He could have easily said, "yes it will work on everything!".

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      • 534623
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1854

        #33
        Originally posted by KO1

        One thing that makes Dr Nigam seem more genuine is the fact that he doesn't believe people who have had HT's will see good results with the HM procedures due to the microscarring. He could have easily said, "yes it will work on everything!".
        He he, who says that "HM procedures" (pure cell-based HM) is working and will work at all??

        Here is what all those guys in this field say, who have REAL EXPERIENCE with such procedures - on humans:

        Dr. Ken Washenik:
        http://www.aderansresearch.com/presentation/ They are looking to launch their product in 2014 and are nearing the completion of their phase 2 trials, which will be completed by next year. And to top it off, have huge investment behind them. They have regrown terminal hair, why is nobody talking about them?


        Dr. Coen Gho:


        So what's still THE problem in general? You know, THE problem which Dr. Nigam solved within just a few month ...

        But here is the good news:



        Dr. Gail Naughton (Histogen) reported at the ISHRS in 2012, that their "HM procedure" works even in scar tissue!!

        So everything seems to be in order ...

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        • KO1
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 805

          #34
          These procedures do work, however they do not work consistently. Nobody said Nigam had solved this problem. Washenik gets 60% response rates, and Nigam is getting about the same (50-60%) according to him.

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          • drnigams
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 551

            #35
            Breaking bald,
            Just finished TOM'S procedure.
            Need to document,number every graft,in macro and videoscopic pics.
            Will respond ,but give me sometime...
            In short,showed few patients of pure HM to TOM..he was in shock and awe...this is for believers and not skeptics..not just because of me..but due to support of researchers ..we all are very close...with PURE HM.

            If IM comes with good question, fine, if he is just trolling ,do not waste time with him ..except that he is a good entertainer and a good friend material ...had he not been a blind hst supporter,even when i have exposed hst...if he wants ,i can completely expose hst...but as i said no time left for the same...His boss keeps calling our mutual friend in mumbai..why dnigam attacking me....
            dr gho,it is in response to IM,he forces me to...

            Time will tell..whether IM and company..the big hst lover..as they have been treated by them...are kids or the rest of the members are kids...i have set the deadline...dec 2013...for this saga....

            Let's compare hst 50 grafts patch test versus drnigam's forum member's invitro case....let the truth prevail..and the world know...THE VERDICT...

            Begin the healthy competition among doctors...patients and docs ..both will benefit....


            Originally posted by Breaking Bald
            I kind of agree with what IM is saying, there seem to be so many young guys that are just too desperate and are easily convinced by Nigam. Believe me I want to belive in Dr Nigam as much as everybody else but I am far from being convinced, however he does seem like an intelligent and considerate guy.

            Dr Nigam, are you going to reply to my original questions?

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            • Tacola
              Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 52

              #36
              Keep going Dr. Nigam!

              Many of us believe in you, Dr. Nigam so keep going fast! I really look forward to the coming results. It`s gonna be some exciting months. And I do also look forward to go through with a treatment at your clinic when the time is right.

              If you solve this you are truly one of the greatest and you will have helped so many people!

              You are sure you will have the sollution completely ready in december?
              During the next months, until december, when will you report? When can we be sure there will be updates?

              And also, how many grafts do you think you will you be able to multiply in one procedure by december?

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              • veca
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 219

                #37
                Dr. Nigam, do not waste your precious time on IM and Dr. Gho. You have the full support of most members of the forum. Focus on the procedure, and continue a good job and save us.

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #38
                  Originally posted by veca
                  Dr. Nigam, do not waste your precious time on IM and Dr. Gho. You have the full support of most members of the forum. Focus on the procedure, and continue a good job and save us.
                  +1.

                  You've been doing a great job so far in trying to prove your technology via Tom. If you're as good as you claim to be, then clients all over the world will come to you. No need to bash Gho or IM. And please stop claiming IM works for Gho, it's ridiculous. IM is German and the way he's behaving on these forums, do you really think Gho would pay for that ??? It's an absurd claim.

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Arashi
                    +1.

                    You've been doing a great job so far in trying to prove your technology via Tom.
                    Can you please explain me in detail which "technology" exactly he proved via Tom?

                    Please stop being so ridiculously ...

                    Ops, I forgot - Everything seems to be in oooder ...

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                    • drnigams
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 551

                      #40
                      Sure,and me and dr gho will be friends one day ,that's for sure...i feel bad doing that...anybody who brings improvement for the cure should be appreciated..and hst is suppose to be better than fue...and i appreciate dr go's work for the same...ok i take your advice...
                      Arashi,i am posting few pics of tom,for the mmebers review for clarity of pics and not the case presentation today..as tom will fly back tmr night...he stayed back..so if you want any more pic reshoot of certain pic..i can request him to come tmr for the same..i also gave him videomicroscopic camera for followup...to post the pics from france....i am confident of his result..can see little donor regen on 4th day..with the extractions on day0 site...


                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      +1.

                      You've been doing a great job so far in trying to prove your technology via Tom. If you're as good as you claim to be, then clients all over the world will come to you. No need to bash Gho or IM. And please stop claiming IM works for Gho, it's ridiculous. IM is German and the way he's behaving on these forums, do you really think Gho would pay for that ??? It's an absurd claim.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #41
                        Originally posted by 534623
                        Can you please explain me in detail which "technology" exactly he proved via Tom?

                        Please stop being so ridiculously ...

                        Ops, I forgot - Everything seems to be in oooder ...
                        He hasn´t proven anything yet (at least in my opinion), BUT he's doing a really great job documenting Tom's case ! The photo's are even better than the one's HASCI shot for the their 50 grafts test (even after I explained them several times how important it was to get a good, clear pre-op photo, the one they sent is mediocre at best).

                        If the rest of Dr Nigam's photo's are as good as his pre-up photo's, then we'll soon know exactly how effective his procedure is, something we still don't know about HASCI, even after all these years.

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          #42
                          And even you must wonder about the true effectiveness of the Gho procedure, IM. If regrowth was really 80%, then why do they advise clients not to have more than 3 HST's (if they want to shave their hair) ? It sounds to me like the effective regrowth percentage is lower than 80%. I hope the 50 grafts test will show great results but I don't know, it would make sense that the true regrowth will come in lower (I'd say probably somewhere at 60-65%). And also, why are there only 3 3 hair grafts in the 50 grafts test ? Both questions I've asked HASCI but still no answer ... Dr Nigams on the other hand is here on these forums answering any question you want to ask, always within 24 hours, something I really have started to respect.

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            #43
                            Originally posted by drnigams

                            Let's compare hst 50 grafts patch test versus drnigam's forum member's invitro case....let the truth prevail..and the world know...THE VERDICT...
                            …told the man - who has never ever seen a final result of his “doubling technique”.

                            Pfffffft…

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                            • didi
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1360

                              #44
                              the reason why theres only 3 3hair grafts? hasci needle is too small

                              dr nigam photos are much much better then those provided by dr gho, even though they know the importance of this test and we told them million times what we want

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                #45
                                Originally posted by didi
                                dr nigam photos are much much better then those provided by dr gho, even though they know the importance of this test and we told them million times what we want
                                Documentation and communication from Dr Nigams is 10x better than from HASCI. But in the end it's all about effectiveness. Let's hope both procedures will be as effective as the doctors state they are.

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