Link to Topical Finasteride

[Arashi]

Here you can buy HPCH:

http://vitivia.com/ecoformula.php

And here is a patent that contains info on how to mix it up yourself: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2153836A1?cl=en

[Arashi]

but I'm not willing to try the DIY approach.

yeah me neither, I'd rather wait 2 years till everything has been well tested and FDA approved. But for the people who do want to experiment, the above might be useful.

[Ginkosama]

I just don't get it, lack of oxygen in the scalp is one of the causes of MPB. Wearing a film on the scalp for the whole day isn't gonna make things worse ?

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

the clinic cant send to europe the topical finasteride. just received an email

[doke]

i already just started using topical minoxidil+finas and its made by a company got one bottle for under £7 uk which is not bad and its in a lipid formula

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

heu doke can you give us more info? is this kind of fin goes to the blood etc?

[Dazza]

i already just started using topical minoxidil+finas and its made by a company got one bottle for under £7 uk which is not bad and its in a lipid formula

Hey doke, can you pm me with details on where you got this? Very interested and also live in the UK. cheers

[doke]

hi dazza i am not promoting this product but i got it cheap on ebay uk i have checked and the seller has no more left but i can see other sites selling it its called MORR F Tropical solution 5%minox+ 1% finas and is made by intas.

[Arashi]

hi dazza i am not promoting this product but i got it cheap on ebay uk i have checked and the seller has no more left but i can see other sites selling it its called MORR F Tropical solution 5%minox+ 1% finas and is made by intas.

http://4nrx.ru/morr-f-minoxidil-finasteride.html

Are the ingredients on the bottle ? I mean I'd love to know what else is in there except the fin+minox of course. Is there HPCH in it ?

BTW the company producing it: http://www.intaspharma.com/index.php...=asc&Itemid=76

Keep in mind that this is 0.1% fin, while the researches in that article I posted used 0.25%

[JJacobs152]

http://4nrx.ru/morr-f-minoxidil-finasteride.html

Are the ingredients on the bottle ? I mean I'd love to know what else is in there except the fin+minox of course. Is there HPCH in it ?

BTW the company producing it: http://www.intaspharma.com/index.php...=asc&Itemid=76

Keep in mind that this is 0.1% fin, while the researches in that article I posted used 0.25%

I'm actually linked to this company. It's one of our relatives that owns it. We're actually in the process of trying to see how effective and how the public responds to 0.1% fin, compared to the 0.25%. Why?

Mainly, because the study is extremely poor. Small sample size, doesn't tell you how they measured to see if patient's had an increase in density or hair per area - it's all very subjective, if that makes sense.

Look up other science journals and notice the difference. The sample size is larger, they go into specifics of how they came up with their data and what not. Granted, the study is a "Phase 4 trial" where we're comparing one product vs something already in the market - it's just not a good strong study.

We want to synthesize a product which will bring hair loss sufferers like myself, a good product that's most importantly both safe and effective, and of course - affordable.

Edit: I hope that my contribution(s) to the forum, activity, talking to others, having uploaded albums will bring credibility to my post. I can understand if I had just signed up yesterday, and this were my first post, ha!

[Arashi]

I'm actually linked to this company. It's one of our relatives that owns it. We're actually in the process of trying to see how effective and how the public responds to 0.1% fin, compared to the 0.25%. Why?

Mainly, because the study is extremely poor. Small sample size, doesn't tell you how they measured to see if patient's had an increase in density or hair per area - it's all very subjective, if that makes sense.

Look up other science journals and notice the difference. The sample size is larger, they go into specifics of how they came up with their data and what not. Granted, the study is a "Phase 4 trial" where we're comparing one product vs something already in the market - it's just not a good strong study.

We want to synthesize a product which will bring hair loss sufferers like myself, a good product that's most importantly both safe and effective, and of course - affordable.

Edit: I hope that my contribution(s) to the forum, activity, talking to others, having uploaded albums will bring credibility to my post. I can understand if I had just signed up yesterday, and this were my first post, ha!

Awesome ! Yeah I agree on the study size, seemed way too small. Especially the fact that twice a day did actually way worse than once a day made me skeptical and made me believe that that good result in the 'once a day group' was merely just luck. But then again, it sure is interesting to have it researched in more detail.

[drnigams]

MORR-F is part of my prescription to all the patients ,this is an indian company. based at ahemdabad...
Yes they do have shortage and availibilty probs of late...
Will call and discuss if they can make .1% why cant they make higher concentration ...

hi dazza i am not promoting this product but i got it cheap on ebay uk i have checked and the seller has no more left but i can see other sites selling it its called MORR F Tropical solution 5%minox+ 1% finas and is made by intas.

[JJacobs152]

MORR-F is part of my prescription to all the patients ,this is an indian company. based at ahemdabad...
Yes they do have shortage and availibilty probs of late...
Will call and discuss if they can make .1% why cant they make higher concentration ...

See two posts above.

[JJacobs152]

Awesome ! Yeah I agree on the study size, seemed way too small. Especially the fact that twice a day did actually way worse than once a day made me skeptical and made me believe that that good result in the 'once a day group' was merely just luck. But then again, it sure is interesting to have it researched in more detail.

Yeah, the other problem with this product is that it's already mixed with minoxidil.

It questions the ability of the product doing its job. I hope that makes sense...

[MrBrainwash]

Topical fin is nothing nuw BUT ....

So first of all, topical fin is nothing new. Thats been around for years, I even remember reading a study from a company that produces a similar product once, saying themselves it DOSENT DO ANYTHING for your hair status !

What is NEW in the PATENT

http://www.google.com/patents/EP2153836A1?cl=en

disussed here is, that it uses Chitosan as a vehicle to transport fin to the hair roots. Its not just crushing some tablets and smearing them on your head as some of the smart people here already indicated. The products you posted here wont do the job...

And as I wrote, this is a patent ! No western company can produce this without the allowense of the owner of the patent rights. Maybe some Indian company who dosen`t give a shit to violate those right ...

By the way, in the patent you can read up exectly how that stuff is made, not that compliated ...

[0021]
A film forming solution having the following composition wt./wt.% was prepared:
1) Finasteride 0.25%
2) Ethyl Alcohol 96° 55.00%
3) Propylene Glycol 5.00%
4) Hydroxypropyl Chitosan 1.00%
5) Purified water 38.75%

Preparation
[0022]

Ethyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol and water were mixed at room temperature. Finasteride was then added and mixed until a clear solution was obtained. Hydroxypropyl Chitosan was added as the final ingredient, and the mixture was stirred at room temperature for 24 hours or until dissolution.


[0023]

The obtained formulation was a clear and colourless solution, homogenous in appearance even after prolonged storage. Moreover, the liquid was able to form a matte, non-sticky and elastic film, which could strongly adhere to the scalp surface.