WCHR 2013 Topic Follicle neogenesis by DP Cells @Dr. Nigam's

[UK_]

Great find!

Hehe. There sure seem to be a lot of naieve kids here. who hail Nigams without any reliable proof. The - "Oh my god he was on a photo with Jahoda" - type of kids, lol. But then again, at least Nigams is trying (hard !) and if he can do experiments on humans that the rest of the world can't, because of restrictive laws and/or ethical codes, then he might proof a VERY valuable asset to the hairloss community. And besides that, I just love how he's become the ears and eyes of this forum on important events. So let's forget about the past and let's see what Nigams can come up with !

Yes, someone mentioned the paper about induction of new hair follicle growth.

I think I have found it here:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v311/n5986/abs/311560a0.html

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...Oh wait... that was from... 1984. I guess the cure was "5 years away" then too.

[Phatalis]

No. The problem is rather that there are too much naive kids on these forums - believing fairy tales without questioning them. That's the problem.

I appreciate his effort regardless. He could sit back and perform FUE's or FUT's like 95% or more of the other surgeons out there and just not give a ****. There are some who also put in effort on their own (such as Gho) who are also... completely irreplaceable.

These guys are trying to do something different and actually care. And I appreciate this. I don't care to take a "side" or follow a particular doctor. It seems retarded. I would love to find a solution together... and be done with balding for good.

[UK_]

Also, the title of the 1984 paper is:

"Induction of hair growth by implantation of cultured dermal papilla cells".

The title of the 2013 conference is:

"Human hair follicle neogenesis using microenvironmentally reprogrammed dermal papilla cells".




I mean, in over two decades of research...... I have to ask the question: WHAT PROGRESS HAVE THEY MADE???????????????????

Seriously, just ask yourself where you were in 1984, most of you probably were not even alive, and what progress have they made?

NOTHING!!!!!!!

[Phatalis]

Yes, someone mentioned the paper about induction of new hair follicle growth.

I think I have found it here:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v311/n5986/abs/311560a0.html

...

...Oh wait... that was from... 1984. I guess the cure was "5 years away" then too.

Shave it off and call it quits bro.

[Phatalis]

Also, the title of the 1984 paper is:

"Induction of hair growth by implantation of cultured dermal papilla cells".

The title of the 2013 conference is:

"Human hair follicle neogenesis using microenvironmentally reprogrammed dermal papilla cells".

I mean, in over two decades of research...... I have to ask the question: WHAT PROGRESS HAVE THEY MADE???????????????????

Seriously, just ask yourself where you were in 1984, most of you probably were not even alive, and what progress have they made?

NOTHING!!!!!!!

Truth is there probably won't ever be a "cure" ... it's ****ing biology. But there can be some treatments.. such as Gho and Nigams.. and maybe they can be enough to fake a "cure"

That's all I'm hopeful for.

[Arashi]

Yes, someone mentioned the paper about induction of new hair follicle growth.

I think I have found it here:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v311/n5986/abs/311560a0.html

...

...Oh wait... that was from... 1984. I guess the cure was "5 years away" then too.

Hehe. You by far are the most pessimistic guy on these forums. And that's quite something, given that balding guys are not the most happy ones in general already as it is But come on, even you must admit that Johada, who wrote that article you just posted, is making progress and now finally has grown hair follicles on human skin (on SCID mouse). If Dr Nigams can replicate that finding on human skin, on humans, then we're pretty much there (though safety concerns still way remain of course).

[UK_]

Shave it off and call it quits bro.

I might get back on fin, being half impotent and having a decent head of hair cant be worse than being a NW6/7.... can it?

[UK_]

Hehe. You by far are the most pessimistic guy on these forums. And that's quite something, given that balding guys are not the most happy ones in general already as it is But come on, even you must admit that Johada, who wrote that article you just posted, is making progress and now finally has grown hair follicles on human skin (on SCID mouse). If Dr Nigams can replicate that finding on human skin, on humans, then we're pretty much there (though safety concerns still way remain of course).

Ifs and buts.

I also dont think I'm pessimistic, I mean it's just common fvucking sense, all you need to do is read each of the God damn titles and there's practically NO DIFFERENCE between what they were talking about 25 years ago to today!!!

TELL ME IM WRONG SOMEONE?????

[Phatalis]

I might get back on fin, being half impotent and having a decent head of hair cant be worse than being a NW6/7.... can it?

It's worse. Def worse. You can still get it in without fin... bald dudes do in fact, get laid... it's just a lot harder...

But if you get those sides and have a shriveled dong that you can't do anything with... what's the point in hair?? Who gives a shit.

I hate hate hate to be typical.. but if it get's to that point im shaving.. tanning.. lifting more (than I do already) and just pulling off the slick head with the 5 o clock shadow look.

[Arashi]

I might get back on fin, being half impotent and having a decent head of hair cant be worse than being a NW6/7.... can it?

If fin is giving you sexual sides, forget about it man, that's SO not worth it. In fact, if you're NW6/7 you might just accept the fact that you're going to remain bold for a while. Why not spend money on other parts of your face instead ? If you have a good, strong, male face then a bold coupe really could suite you. In fact, I'd always suggest to get your chin, nose and teeth fixed first. It's cheaper than having a Gho procedure, results are life lasting (ok, dental porcelain veneers will only last 15 years) and will bring your greater overall improvement than a hair procedure.

[UK_]

The only thing that has stopped me from going back down the route of finasteride are these potential treatments - but I'm just losing faith every year it's the same thing.

I honestly think those people who shave their heads and get a VERY light form of scalp micro-pigmentation (not too dark because it looks stupid) look quite good.

Jesus christ what am i saying.

[Arashi]

The only thing that has stopped me from going back down the route of finasteride are these potential treatments - but I'm just losing faith every year it's the same thing.

I honestly think those people who shave their heads and get a VERY light form of scalp micro-pigmentation (not too dark because it looks stupid) look quite good.

Jesus christ what am i saying.

I just couldn't agree more to "Phatalis"'post on the previous page. What's the use of attracting women if you can't even get it up ? Stay FAR away from fin if it's giving you (sexual) sides, brother !! Realize that hair is only a (small) part of your overall looks. If you want to improve the way you look, get your body in shape, lose weight, grow muscles, get facial surgery if there are weaknesses in your face you want to correct. So many things you can do to improve your overall looks instead of just your hair.

[UK_]

I do agree, but a NW1 would just amplify the benefits of those changes by a colossal factor.

But yes, if you're going down the shaved route, facial features (structure) have to be in order or else you might aswel go out like scorpion.

I do agree with Phatalis and consider myself lucky the side effects have finally resolved! There have been several suicides on propeciahelp.com back when it was just the Yahoo group - but I doubt many people commit suicide over baldness.

[clandestine]

Right, UK. So unless you look like the Rock Dwayne Johnson bald, you should kill yourself.

Right. Wait, what planet do you live on?

But yes, if you're going down the shaved route, facial features (structure) have to be in order or else you might aswel go out like scorpion.

[UK_]

Right, UK. So unless you look like the Rock Dwayne Johnson bald, you should kill yourself.

Right. Wait, what planet do you live on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IVqMXPFYwI