Reducing T&DHT on the scalp? the best topical anti-androgen ??

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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #16
    Originally posted by Conpecia
    Is there any way to prevent this or is part of the benefit obtained systemically? Doesn't seem like you could just wash off DHT so it must be systemic to reduce levels.
    AFAIK, it needs to penetrate the skin in order to bind to the follicle to have any effect. This is why CB is supposed to be Fin on crack; its 4X as powerful but goes benign when it hits the bloodstream.

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    • Cob984
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 526

      #17
      How long have you been on CB now hellouser?
      Too early to comment on results? im desperate to avoid internal inhibitors

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #18
        Originally posted by Cob984
        How long have you been on CB now hellouser?
        Too early to comment on results? im desperate to avoid internal inhibitors
        Still too early, about 1 month in on using CB. However its also the wrong form so it doesnt completely dissolve either. I'm still using it once a day though (and with a weak vehicle for CB as well as I think oleyl/pg would be more effective than what im currently using which is ethanol/pg).

        I'll be getting Form III of CB in the coming weeks. We'll see how THAT fairs. But RU so far has done wonders for me.

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        • secrethero89
          Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 77

          #19
          Originally posted by hellouser
          Still too early, about 1 month in on using CB. However its also the wrong form so it doesnt completely dissolve either. I'm still using it once a day though (and with a weak vehicle for CB as well as I think oleyl/pg would be more effective than what im currently using which is ethanol/pg).

          I'll be getting Form III of CB in the coming weeks. We'll see how THAT fairs. But RU so far has done wonders for me.
          How do you make your RU solution? Do you prepare it everyday?

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          • Conpecia
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 904

            #20
            Originally posted by secrethero89
            How do you make your RU solution? Do you prepare it everyday?
            Check his RU thread.

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            • Conpecia
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 904

              #21
              Originally posted by hellouser
              AFAIK, it needs to penetrate the skin in order to bind to the follicle to have any effect. This is why CB is supposed to be Fin on crack; its 4X as powerful but goes benign when it hits the bloodstream.
              So theoretically CB won't have any Fin sides?!

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              • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 638

                #22
                it would be nice t see some cb results by members and make a guide

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                • eqvist
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 96

                  #23
                  Why do people use RU if CB is badass without sides?

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                  • clandestine
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2002

                    #24
                    Originally posted by eqvist
                    Why do people use RU if CB is badass without sides?
                    We don't know the appropriate vehicle to use with CB yet.

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                    • BigThinker
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1507

                      #25
                      Reading these three pages is like sitting in on Advanced Biochemistry class during Freshman year.

                      Please, oh please let finasteride & keto work for me.

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                      • burtandernie
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1563

                        #26
                        I just want to say there are no topicals that do what you want or everyone would be using it and we would all keep our hair for a very long time safely.
                        All this stuff people routinely throw out is all theoretical its not proven to be safe or work long term. RU has a few old studies but again not every finished or approved for humans it could go systemic or do any number of things just like propecia.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Conpecia
                          So theoretically CB won't have any Fin sides?!
                          Theoretically, it shouldnt have sides.

                          In the real world? Who knows. I've been on it about a month and no sides so far.

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            #28
                            Originally posted by eqvist
                            Why do people use RU if CB is badass without sides?
                            Because its basically JUST been made available to us via 'black market' and we still dont know what the best or even proper vehicle for it is.

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                            • HARIRI
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 467

                              #29
                              Since RU and CB aren't officially manufactured and that all of their products are personally homemade then its little bit risky. However I heard that CB is better than RU. But I should wait for something official and FDA approved to come out. I don't get it why official reputed companies do not give attention to these 2 ingredients yet? So far, they only topical solution is Azelaic acid which comes with Minoxidil in one bottle. Try to get it from here www.mopcworld.com .

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                              • rdawg
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 996

                                #30
                                Ru and CB in theory should work.

                                Problem is CB needs to have the proper vehicle, I dont think anyone has figured out what that is yet and most are just guessing/hoping it's working with what they're using.

                                RU is a little more widespread but again I havent really seen evidence like say with FIN, although people do seem to think it works for them.

                                both at your own risk as they are both homemade.

                                but in fairness the FDA takes forever with this stuff(albeit for good reason) so I applaud those willing to risk it as there may indeed be something that can be used now but is stuck in trials for the next 3-5 years.

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