Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

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  • Plan C
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 341

    Originally posted by inbrugge
    Everybody is different. You're using 100 mg RU with minimal side effects. I used ru with neo only 10 mg for 1 week and had watery ejaculate. So it depends on how your body handles it.
    My thinking is that once I start using RU directly after showering, it will penetrate the skin much better (currently it has to penetrate remnants of minox and sebum first), which could result in side effects.

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    • Illusion
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 500

      Ok so I start to understand that RU probably does go systematic but in a much lesser amount than fin? Basically this is my last hope (at least until my 18th) so I'm very likely to try this anyway. Also, whenever I apply RU, females (esp pregnant onces) can absolutely NOT touch my hair, right? I thought this made sense because of the antial-androgen effects RU has.

      I've heard people say it before: to make a topical work, it has to go systematic. Now I don't necessarily know if that is true, but it would make some sense. I just really hope that RU is safe but I guess it could have the same side effects as fin (in general but also women).

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      • doke
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1464

        Originally posted by Illusion
        Ok so I start to understand that RU probably does go systematic but in a much lesser amount than fin? Basically this is my last hope (at least until my 18th) so I'm very likely to try this anyway. Also, whenever I apply RU, females (esp pregnant onces) can absolutely NOT touch my hair, right? I thought this made sense because of the antial-androgen effects RU has.

        I've heard people say it before: to make a topical work, it has to go systematic. Now I don't necessarily know if that is true, but it would make some sense. I just really hope that RU is safe but I guess it could have the same side effects as fin (in general but also women).
        Wrong it does not have to go systemic only locally to the hair follicle and that's why ru was so good?

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        • Illusion
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 500

          Originally posted by doke
          Wrong it does not have to go systemic only locally to the hair follicle and that's why ru was so good?
          Yeah you're right. I was a bit confused when I typed it lol. But even if it does go systematic it's not really a problem because of its short half life. Finasteride will be in your body for weeks (at least), RU will be out within 1-2 days. At least, that's what I heard.


          Still have a few questions regarding RU, but these are mainly towards RU users because it are mostly questions of "how to?".

          - What dosage should I start? I know you ,hellouser, recommend to do 100mg/day, but maybe I can use less and still get the same results? If I start with 100mg immediately while I could get the same effect using 75mg (for example), than that would be a waste of RU. I was actually thinking of starting with 50mg/day but I'd like some input on this.

          - I have pretty long hair (about 10cm) on top, does that change the way of applying? I know shorter hair is easier for applying RU (or any topical really) but I was planning on keeping this hairstyle. Dont know if this is going to give any problems though?

          - When you go on holiday or are away from home for some time (let's say 4 weeks), do you premix your RU for all those weeks or do you take your powder with you? I'm not necessarily afraid of customs or anything, it's more the stability of the RU-powder that worries me. When you premix RU it stays ok for quite a while on room temperature, right?

          - How long does it approx take before I can notice any change in shedding (if I respond well that is)? I've heard people say that it stopped shedding cold turkey for them, which isn't that unrealistic considering how RU works (I have a general idea on how it works now).

          - Last question: what kind of pictures should I be taking? With this I mean if I should photograph the hairs from a very close distant too or just the regular crown and hairline pics. (for the record, I'm a NW2 with diffuse shedding in a NW5/NW6 pattern). When my RU arrives, I'll start a thread for you guys to be able to follow my 'journey'. I'll try to get as much quality pics as possible (I have a decent camera and I'm going to ask someone to take the pics for me so I can get the best angle).


          A friend will be ordering my RU very soon so I'll be getting it before October I guess. I'd order it myself but I don't have paypal (too young). I would have bought more than 5g but I'd like to first 'try RU' to see if it isn't giving me any sides. I know it's not supposed to give me sides, but you never know. It's an experimental drug after all...

          I would very much appreciate if any RU users/experts comment on my questions.

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          • doke
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1464

            I think that 50mgs twice a day or 1.5 to 2mls is a good start for at least six months then increase if you need to but a 5% mix is good.
            Although kanes ready mixed goes up to an 8% in 50mls which maybe good if you have severe stage of mpb.
            Or some start with a higher dose then decrease it when you have the desired result, to be honest its trial and error due to our different hormones.

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            • Illusion
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 500

              hehe true, it's a bit of trial and error. Why 50mg twice a day though? I thought once a day was fine?

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              • Plan C
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 341

                In his original post, hellouser recommends that you apply RU straight after showering to maximise its efficacy. I was intending to do this with RU in Neogenic - is this wise? Isn't there a chance of systemic absorption?

                Also, I'm currently using 100mg of RU in KB solution. Should I continue with this amount in Neo?

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                • doke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1464

                  Originally posted by Illusion
                  hehe true, it's a bit of trial and error. Why 50mg twice a day though? I thought once a day was fine?
                  The idea of twice a day is that your scalp gets spaced out dht constant over many hours like minoxidil 12 hours apart twice a day.
                  Your scalp during and after first application of ru may get more oily during the day mine does especially at the temples and on the crown.
                  I suppose its best if once a day is like I do 1.5mls at night after washing hair or wipe scalp with a wet cloth to dampen scalp to make sure you have no sebum there. Myself think its better to have a complete dry scalp to apply minox or ru but that's the way i do it.

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                  • Illusion
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 500

                    Originally posted by doke
                    The idea of twice a day is that your scalp gets spaced out dht constant over many hours like minoxidil 12 hours apart twice a day.
                    Your scalp during and after first application of ru may get more oily during the day mine does especially at the temples and on the crown.
                    I suppose its best if once a day is like I do 1.5mls at night after washing hair or wipe scalp with a wet cloth to dampen scalp to make sure you have no sebum there. Myself think its better to have a complete dry scalp to apply minox or ru but that's the way i do it.
                    Ah I see. I'm probably just going to apply RU right after showering though so I can get the best absorbation. I don't know how long it takes for the RU to get fully absorbed into your scalp so once I find out, I can decide if 2 times a day is convenient for me (and necessary, based on my results). Maybe even a dermaroller later on, but for now this will do.

                    Could you answer my questions regarding results (when did you notice that you were shedding less) and being away from home for a long time (what do you do then? Take your RU with you and mix everything on holiday / put your RU into KB solution / ???)

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                    • doke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1464

                      Originally posted by Illusion
                      Ah I see. I'm probably just going to apply RU right after showering though so I can get the best absorbation. I don't know how long it takes for the RU to get fully absorbed into your scalp so once I find out, I can decide if 2 times a day is convenient for me (and necessary, based on my results). Maybe even a dermaroller later on, but for now this will do.

                      Could you answer my questions regarding results (when did you notice that you were shedding less) and being away from home for a long time (what do you do then? Take your RU with you and mix everything on holiday / put your RU into KB solution / ???)
                      To be honest its no good asking about other peoples results as you really need to try for yourself its like minoxidil some it works for and others it does nothing.
                      As to my hair loss I have now zero loss when washing hair which is good and going on holiday as I use ready mixed which is in a small bottle, as I do not fly anywhere im not sure with security at airports you can take the solution in the metal bottles.

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                      • Illusion
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 500

                        Originally posted by doke
                        To be honest its no good asking about other peoples results as you really need to try for yourself its like minoxidil some it works for and others it does nothing.
                        As to my hair loss I have now zero loss when washing hair which is good and going on holiday as I use ready mixed which is in a small bottle, as I do not fly anywhere im not sure with security at airports you can take the solution in the metal bottles.

                        Nice results. Does the premixed RU stay good for a few weeks on room temperature or no?

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                        • doke
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1464

                          Anagenic say its good up to 6 months at room temp.

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                          • Illusion
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 500

                            It stays good up to 6 months premixed in PG and alcohol? That's new to me...

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                            • diffuseloser
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 238

                              Ordered my first batch of RU from Anageninc two weeks ago. Emailed them to see what's going on and it's stuck in customs. See email reply below for some interesting info on the RU. Apparently, this new stuff doesn't degrade as quickly as the older
                              batches of RU. Anyone else heard anything about this?

                              "please refer to our FAQ, our ru58841 won't drop in purity at all, for 1 year in room temperature, its structure is very stable. Old batches had to be kept cool, this problem has been resolved for ever with our ROS.

                              for more info please check our faq: www.anageninc.com/faq


                              Q) What is the shelf life of your research compounds?

                              A) Our unique ROS RU58841 is stable up to 1 year in solid form at room temperature in a cool dry place away from direct sunlight. In the freezer it is stable for at least 2 years. Our unique RU solutions are stable up to 6 months in room temperature. Keep away from direct sunlight.“

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                              • doke
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 1464

                                That's why you should use kb solution as it keeps it stable?

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