Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

[Plan C]

Hi all,

Apologies for resurrecting this thread. I have been using 85mg RU58841 in 0.5ml PG & 1.25ml ethanol every other day for several years, and it dawned on me that whilst the mg amount of RU is quite high, the concentration % is only around 4.9%.

If I begin to use 1ml of solution, this will rise to 8.5%. Will it therefore be more effective? Or is it the mg amount of RU that matters?

Also, is there any consensus on whether minoxidil is a suitable carrier for RU? I've seen concerns raised over the water content. Does anyone disolve RU in a 10% or 15% minoxidil solution?

[SongBird]

Hi all,

Apologies for resurrecting this thread. I have been using 85mg RU58841 in 0.5ml PG & 1.25ml ethanol every other day for several years, and it dawned on me that whilst the mg amount of RU is quite high, the concentration % is only around 4.9%.

If I begin to use 1ml of solution, this will rise to 8.5%. Will it therefore be more effective? Or is it the mg amount of RU that matters?

Also, is there any consensus on whether minoxidil is a suitable carrier for RU? I've seen concerns raised over the water content. Does anyone disolve RU in a 10% or 15% minoxidil solution?

What matters is not the concentration, but the amount of RU powder that you use. Think about it.

1ml solution, 50mg RU = 5% concentration.
3ml solution, 50mg RU = 1.6% concentration.

The difference is just that you have more solution to spread across your scalp with 3ml. What matters is that all 3ml is put on your scalp, meaning 50mg of RU is still going to be present in your scalp, it just was spread among 3ml, instead of 1ml, but its still 50mg that is put on your scalp.

[bluewater]

How effective has RU been for you guys? I have been using it in a Minox solution for almost a year September. I have receding and temple loss and I haven't gotten any noticeable regrowth. I have a few random hairs on the totally bald areas. I am also using it on the places i have hair to hopefully decrease loss and gain some additional growth in the productive area. I have been using Minox as the base simply because it is easier and less expensive. Was not aware that it may not be the right thing to do. What do you advise?

[Aminar]

Thank you it was really helpful.

[Plan C]

Anyone know where in the UK it is possible to buy suitable ethanol? The place I was getting it from in Germany is no longer exporting to the UK.

[Ljames]

Anyone know where in the UK it is possible to buy suitable ethanol? The place I was getting it from in Germany is no longer exporting to the UK.

I'm from the UK and have found somewhere, it's call receptor chem. From what I can see they seem pretty legit, I've not ordered from there yet but am planning to tonight as it's payday and am taking the RU plunge.

I'm looking at getting some pre mixed RU. If anyone could share an opinion it would be much appreciated as I'm not to experienced with it

"M.Wt: 369.34
Formula: C17H18F3N3O3
4-[3-(4-hydroxybutyl)-4,4-dimethyl-2,5-dioxoimidazolidin-1-yl]-2-(trifluoromethyl)benzonitrile
Solubility: Polyglycols, Aqua, Ethanol
Purity: >99%"

[mustang2]

I've just bought some from Anagen (KB solution)

I am on topical dutasteride with great success (zero hair loss for 4 months, no sides) after having bad sides with both oral and topical finasteride. It reduced my shedding to 3 hairs a day from 50 and hair is much thicker after 4 months. Best part is I only apply it once a week

I will be going on TRT next month and I'm worried about test causing hair loss so I will test RU before doing so and after going on Test

[HairGuru]

I've just bought some from Anagen (KB solution)

I am on topical dutasteride with great success (zero hair loss for 4 months, no sides) after having bad sides with both oral and topical finasteride. It reduced my shedding to 3 hairs a day from 50 and hair is much thicker after 4 months. Best part is I only apply it once a week

I will be going on TRT next month and I'm worried about test causing hair loss so I will test RU before doing so and after going on Test

Where do you buy topical Dutasteride?

[robodoc]

*Update*
The RU seems to work fine for me (RU+Alc+PG). I started dermarolling as well. So at the moment I use RU and Minox topical (Minox just every 3rd day as a booster) and derma roller 1 session/week.
Feels good so far, no sideeffects noticed.

This comment was from 2017....how is it working today?? It is not working you will say I am sure. None of this crap works except for topical Fin, Minox. and some caffeine. Right?

[robodoc]

How effective has RU been for you guys? I have been using it in a Minox solution for almost a year September. I have receding and temple loss and I haven't gotten any noticeable regrowth. I have a few random hairs on the totally bald areas. I am also using it on the places i have hair to hopefully decrease loss and gain some additional growth in the productive area. I have been using Minox as the base simply because it is easier and less expensive. Was not aware that it may not be the right thing to do. What do you advise?

Exactly....sorry it does not work, save your dough and health.

[robodoc]

If you purchase the RU in powder form then yes, they could probably make it for you. I'm not sure they would though as it's probably illegal for them to do so for you.

They will not compound anything using one's own ingredients. They will not compound anything not FDA approved or they would be in deep sh*t.

[dthcore]

I've just bought some from Anagen (KB solution)

I am on topical dutasteride with great success (zero hair loss for 4 months, no sides) after having bad sides with both oral and topical finasteride. It reduced my shedding to 3 hairs a day from 50 and hair is much thicker after 4 months. Best part is I only apply it once a week

I will be going on TRT next month and I'm worried about test causing hair loss so I will test RU before doing so and after going on Test

How’s trt treating your hair bro?

[dthcore]

Exactly....sorry it does not work, save your dough and health.

Wait what part of that doesn’t work?

[mustang2]

How’s trt treating your hair bro?

First 4 weeks no hair loss
Then 3-4 weeks of maybe 30-40 stands a day. Topical dutasteride did not fully protect me.
Added 0.5mg finasteride 3 days a week and still using topical dutasteride once a week. Hair loss is down to 10 strands a day which is OK with me...

Sides of finasteride are much milder as I have test now. 175mg a week

I will be adding mesotherapy with dutasteride once a week or once every 2 weeks and continue to check.

RU is my last weapon and resource with oral dutasteride.

I don’t want to nuke my DHT. I like to have it below 250 but still have some.

Without TRT I had zero hair loss AND
Zero sides with topical dutasteride.

[dthcore]

First 4 weeks no hair loss
Then 3-4 weeks of maybe 30-40 stands a day. Topical dutasteride did not fully protect me.
Added 0.5mg finasteride 3 days a week and still using topical dutasteride once a week. Hair loss is down to 10 strands a day which is OK with me...

Sides of finasteride are much milder as I have test now. 175mg a week

I will be adding mesotherapy with dutasteride once a week or once every 2 weeks and continue to check.

RU is my last weapon and resource with oral dutasteride.

I don’t want to nuke my DHT. I like to have it below 250 but still have some.

Without TRT I had zero hair loss AND
Zero sides with topical dutasteride.

Damn man not bad! I’m on dutasteride .5 every day and RU58841 everyday with minox! And I still lose Atleast 25 hairs a day! Not on trt too!!! I wish! But not so sure what would happen to my hair. Lol