Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

[xLeox]

thanks for the answer guys. being able to put minox on after an hour makes things easier for me

30-60 minutes is fine. It's what I did.

you switched to combining ru + minox or you just don't use ru anymore?

As for minoxidil, I just use cheap and cheerful Kirkland 5%. I've heard a good few others using this as well with success, although I don't think it matters. Try to look for one with a lower water content.

when talking about Ru and Minox combined, do you think one should stick to 10 ml batch or it's possible to make relatively bigger batches (like 30 ml, so that I wouldn't need to prepare it every week) and still keep 100% ru effectiveness? and how much ethanol should I add for such a quantity (30 ml)? what other minox could be good, besides kirkland, for such purpose?

thanks once again for your feedback, much appreciated. it's hard to get ru talk here in italy.

[diffuseloser]

You're welcome. I would probably advise you to stick with smaller batches although I do make up large batches(3x 60ml bottles) and freeze them.

I use as little alcohol as possible. I put the powder into a glass jug then just dump in a few capfuls of alcohol, then almost immediately in with the minoxidil.

[xLeox]

I see. I'm planning to make bigger mixed batches as you eventually. as for a couple months, I'll stick to 10 ml ru batches only. I've been using it for a month now and I think it caused me a little shedding, so I don't wanna risk to aggravate it switching to a different minox (currently using one with progesterone added, done by a pharmacy) that I'm using now. plus, I'm kinda paranoid about the exact quantity of ethanol to add to the solution.

[Illusion]

Hey Illusion. I always try to massage the minoxidil into my scalp, especially if there's RU in there. You definitely don't want to waste it. If you just drip it onto your scalp, you're missing spots and the shit will run down onto other areas of your scalp and your face. I find that rubbing it in a little with the tips of my fingers combats this and helps with penetration.

As for minoxidil, I just use cheap and cheerful Kirkland 5%. I've heard a good few others using this as well with success, although I don't think it matters. Try to look for one with a lower water content.

Cheers mate, just ordered me some Kirkland 5%, I'll see how things go.

I use as little alcohol as possible. I put the powder into a glass jug then just dump in a few capfuls of alcohol, then almost immediately in with the minoxidil.

You still add ethanol to the RU? I thought I could just dump the powder in a vial and then add minox to it, shake it and done. Are you adding ethanol for solubility?

[diffuseloser]

I use Isopropyl 99.9%. RU will dissolve in stock minoxidil without it but may take a little longer. There is alcohol present in Kirkland 5% but a few capfuls of Isopropyl helps it along for me. If I ever make another batch I'll try it without. I think the most important aspect is to use a little heat to help it dissolve. Hot water from the sink is sufficient.

[Illusion]

Got it. Will experiment a bit with it to see what works best. With heat you mean that you put your closed minox+RU bottle in a hot bath of water to make it dissolve faster? Or do you actually add the hot water to it? I'm not very keen on mixing with water as it's not great for dissolving (I heard), but if you say so... Again, will mess around with this a bit

[atob]

have started a separate thread, but hard to geyt traction as a new poster

looking to make my own minox and ru topicals.

what would be best non pg vehicle? glycerine, iso propyl? others? what %/ ratio?

can I use same vehicle for minox? will be 2 separate preparations. do you need to use a cream base if higher than 5% minox?

finally any ideas for whare to buy minox raw powder in europe? tried china, but most suppliers wont do small amounts..or very expesnive.

I have read through loads of threads, but still none the wiser

thanks!

[diffuseloser]

Got it. Will experiment a bit with it to see what works best. With heat you mean that you put your closed minox+RU bottle in a hot bath of water to make it dissolve faster? Or do you actually add the hot water to it? I'm not very keen on mixing with water as it's not great for dissolving (I heard), but if you say so... Again, will mess around with this a bit

No, definitely don't add any water! What I mean is, bathe the container with the solution in hot water. I use a glass measuring jug for this and when it has dissolved completely, I fill up the empty Kirkland bottles with the minox/RU solution.

atob, you can find all the information you need about making RU at the start of this thread. Not sure about making your own minox.

[atob]

hi

yes have read through and seems like glycerine /ethanol is an option if no pg, but hard to see a concensus?

what would be right ratio.. 70/30, gyl/eth?

[Hairismylife]

Why nobody considers KB solution? I think it's good.

[whatsgoingon]

I have a two questions/talking points for this.
1) why does no one use RUM anymore? I think I read it's difficult to find a good distributor, but having a cream application method would be ideal. I'd hate to get RU in my eyes
2) why do companies develop this then drop this randomly? it's been picked up several times from what I've read, but it's always dropped. Is it because they realize it isn't sell-able as a hairloss drug as it topically degrades too quickly to sell and would need to be refrigerated in order to mass distribute? Or could it be that orally the sides are as bad as other similar spec'ed drugs and that coupled with the degradation makes it difficult to make profitable.

Just a bit curious on peoples takes on those questions.

[Plan C]

Is ethanol/pg still considered the best vehicle for RU? Currently alternating days of ethanol/pg and neogenic but considering dropping neo altogether.

[atob]

from all ive read, eth/pg is the most used vehicle. from those who use neo - there didn't seem to be any specific advantage other than its ready made?

glycerine or aloe +eth to avoid scalp irritation, k and b seems to leave a film, and residue.

[Illusion]

First few weeks of RU usage were pure heaven for me (close to zero shedding, no MPB itch) but things have changed... I'm back to my old shedding but more important, that goddamned itch is back. I even upped my dosage but it doesn't seem to matter. It's not the RU, as I do get the sides with the higher dosage. Does anybody know what's going on? Are my AR's just completely ****ed?

[Haircure]

I recently bought the powder from anageninc and was wondering where do I buy the solution ingredients in canada? I couldn't find everclear and not sure where to look for propylene glycol. The solution requires ethanol, so couldn't I buy the rubbing alcohol which is 95% ethanol?