Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

[Swooping]

RU isn't pretty much a experimental anymore imo. There have been literally 100's probably 1000's guys who have used it. Some went as far as 400mg~ daily. Users been on it for more than 3 years while some even up to 10 years long. FDA phase 3 shit means nothing to this.

We can all quite assume with high accuracy or actually be 100% certain that RU behaves like a normal anti androgen without off side target effects. It can definitely induce side effects in certain people though. Nothing at the moment is completely side effect free. But you'll notice it fast if it accumulates in your system because your lipid profile will change, just like any anti-androgen would do.

I have though about production and quality risk. But we have sources which deliver 99+% so that's not a problem at all. Just look at how many people buy hormones from the underground bodybuilding labs. Winstrol, testosterone, trenbolone, turinabol, anavar etc. All made by underground labs and literally 100000'S of people buy this stuff and even INJECT certain stuff.

I highly believe that RU is even a safer choice than propecia although we don't have evidence for this, this is just my personal opinion. But nobody can really say at this point that propecia is safer too. Fact is; everything carries a bit of risk. If you want to carry 0% risk don't go with any treatment, but we all know what that will do.

[doke]

I have never heard of ru causing cancer its a non steroid antiandrogen and in trials it was safe and non systemic that's why over the many years its been unavailable premixed people wanted to get hold of it.
As said by john ertel at regrowth com it is the mother of all antiandrogens and with the fact it is only working at the hair follicle non systemic in other words at the doses used in the trials.
So anyone who says they are having problems in the lower regions it will not cause that problem to be honest I got aches in my balls when not taking anything.

[Hairismylife]

But US Government bans RU import. Maybe US Goverment knows sth risky?

[Jazz1]

But US Government bans RU import. Maybe US Goverment knows sth risky?

Lol what a funny quote! They probably more concerned about propecia sales! You do know the US government does not ban GMO. You do know the GMO shit Monsanto created causes cancer? Why good old US does not seem to be doing much here lol.

[bradpitthair]

anyone who hasn't used RU shouldn't really comment on whether it's safe or systemic or not. I've used RU for a month and it went fully systemic. I've stopped RU of course, it doesn't make sense to use it long term if I'm experiencing noticeable sides so early. Before I started RU, my belief was that they didn't market it because it was a topical and it wouldn't compete against other products but after having tried it, I'm fairly certain that the side effects caused by this was one of the main causes. This is a potent androgen antagonist, belonging to the same family as the *lutamides.

[inbrugge]

I'm on my 4th day of a very low Ru dosage (10 mg). So far nothing but a little tingling down stairs. I'm planning to go upto 20 mg which is ideal for me in a few days. Also, I'm using Neogenic as the vehicle. I'm starting to believe the vehicle is very crucial in goong systematic or not. I have a crazy spike in body hair (arms, hands, brows) since Minox. Pretty sure that's a sign that it's going systematic.

Hellouser, I have a question for you. You're using Minox, so why not dump your Ru into your minox? But rather make a separate vehicle for it?

[Illusion]

Hellouser (or any other person that is on RU and/or has some knowledge about RU,

I'm 16 years old (almost 17) and because of that, propecia is out of the question (have to be 18 at least) and even when I turn 18, I dont want to **** with my development as a male by drastically reducing my DHT levels while not even fully developed yet.

Because of this, RU seems like an ideal option to me. But, what do you think about the safety of RU for young adults (or in this case, even children)? Could there be any potentional risks for me because of my age? And what are common side effects of RU in general?

RU is expensive, but at the rate I'm balding I dont have much choice, thats why I'm so interested in RU. Halting hairloss right now would be great. So what do you think? Safety-wise, could I start with RU?

Edit: I just realised that I'm blessed with my father, as he's a pharmacist. I think I could get a little help from him, so preparing my RU is going to be pretty safe.

[robodoc]

Hello Guys,

Just want to share my experience changing vehicles with RU.

I was using RU (on and off) with PG and everclear for over a month but was felling tenderness in my chest and sometimes something that can be describe as a burning sensation in my body (pretty odd felling).

I decided to change to the KB vehicle and bought a 3% solution from Anagen (of course I'm worry of sides so I didn't want to go over 3% for now) and so far so good

Its been only a week so nothing to report in terms of results yet but hopefully will see some improvements in about a couple of months

Does anyone knows why KB can be potentially better in terms of sides? is 3% to low to experience significant results (I'm applying 1 ml a day)?

Look, I won;t claim to be the expert but I do have some background in solvents. I doubt KB is any better than Iso alcohol 91%. Alcoholic, and I have said this before, solutions are well absorbed.

Chest pain, fullness, palpitations are caused by RU in my opinion. There are side effects to everything so beware. Some people are more affected than others in this regard. We all are "playing in the dark".

[doke]

hi ill I know you asked hell but first of all have you seen a doctor to find out what sort of hairloss you have? as it maynot be mpb.
If its male pattern loss you have have you tried topical minoxidil as even if you use ru you will need a regrowth agent to use in combination.
I myself use ru and minox foam and found them to be a good combination you could start with topical spironolactone instead of ru or try minoxidil first with azelaic acid.
What ever you choose you need to use at least for 3-6 months for minoxidil to work.

[Illusion]

I've been to my GP and to a dermatologist and both told me I had MPB.

Thanks for concerning about me but RU is basically my only shot (like I said, finasteride is out of the question because of my age). I dont need to regrow any hair. I just need to keep the hair I have right now. So minoxidil isnt going to do much as minoxidil doesnt treat the underlying cause of MPB. Besides, I know a lot of people want to see pictures from persons who are on RU only, so by doing this I kind of give something back to the community too.

There's a very high chance I'll start using RU within 2 months or so and I'm pretty excited tbh. How long do I need to use it to get an idea if it's working properly or not?

[inbrugge]

Illusion, I don't want to be a downer but I wouldn't say RU is a safer alternative to Finasteride. The only props that I see is that it's applied topically. Chemical wise, it works pretty much the same as Fin or Dut as far as I know. Now again, I'm not the most qualified guy here.

Just an update of my situation...so about a week on Ru, my shedding was fluctuating, somedays really low. In general I felt my scalp was doing better. I had no noticable side effects except extra tingling down stairs.

However, I did notice that my semen was unusually watery which is a total no-no for me. So, my Ru experiment has been concluded as such. I didn't have any errectile dysfunction or anything. Was waking up with morning wood, good sign. But now almost 4 days after quitting, still my semen is more liquidy than normal.

So how long does this crap stay in the system?

I'm hoping it clears out by next week. I don't want to be playing russian roulette with my fertility for a treatment which has limited results. I'm hoping things return back to normal, then I will see how topical fin fairs.

[doke]

I have said this before ru is a non systemic non steroid antiandrogen and at 5% 1 to 2mls a day which is what I use is better to me than the orals.
I have tried dutasteride and finasteride and I get more hairloss, with ru it halts the loss.
Go and look at the old post by john ertel at regrowth com on ru and he said it was the mother of all antiandrogens but anyone remember bryan Shelton who is sadly no longer with us he said ru was nothing special but with the trials many since the 1990s wanted to get to use it so there must be something good about it if its the genuine article that is.
There was stability issues and that the powder must be kept in the freezer and mixing fresh batches is good although kanes ready mixed 5% and 8% in kb solution which I use I like.
I have mixed my own and maydo again but laziness made me buy the ready mixed.

[cichlidfort]

I have said this before ru is a non systemic non steroid antiandrogen and at 5% 1 to 2mls a day which is what I use is better to me than the orals.
I have tried dutasteride and finasteride and I get more hairloss, with ru it halts the loss.
Go and look at the old post by john ertel at regrowth com on ru and he said it was the mother of all antiandrogens but anyone remember bryan Shelton who is sadly no longer with us he said ru was nothing special but with the trials many since the 1990s wanted to get to use it so there must be something good about it if its the genuine article that is.
There was stability issues and that the powder must be kept in the freezer and mixing fresh batches is good although kanes ready mixed 5% and 8% in kb solution which I use I like.
I have mixed my own and maydo again but laziness made me buy the ready mixed.

Wrong. It's called shedding which means it's WORKING!

[Plan C]

Hi all,

I'm going to switch from RU in KB solution to RU in Neogenic as I'm keen to use RU before minox and not after (KB creates a film that prevents anything else entering the scalp so this isn't currently possible).

In his original post, hellouser recommends that you apply RU straight after showering to maximise its efficacy. I was intending to do this with RU in Neo - is this wise? Isn't there a chance of systemic absorption?

Also, I'm currently using 100mg of RU a day. Should I continue with this amount in Neo?

[inbrugge]

Everybody is different. You're using 100 mg RU with minimal side effects. I used ru with neo only 10 mg for 1 week and had watery ejaculate. So it depends on how your body handles it.