Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

[dan1938]

Reason was, AFAIK, it was too costly to go through further trials and dropped.

ok, but that doesn't answer why they haven't made the results available to the public. I have even tried emailing them and they never replied.

[Amercancer]

Does anybody recommend using RU with rogaine liquid cause that's what just started after just minox. Also when I first started doing this the first night after applying I woke up with a massive headache like never b4. It was so bad I couldn't touch my temple right side. Anybody experience this. Could this b from mixing it with minox. I don't really feel like applying twice on my head at the same time when I can just use it with my rogaine mixed. Should I stick with it?

[dan1938]

Does anybody recommend using RU with rogaine liquid cause that's what just started after just minox. Also when I first started doing this the first night after applying I woke up with a massive headache like never b4. It was so bad I couldn't touch my temple right side. Anybody experience this. Could this b from mixing it with minox. I don't really feel like applying twice on my head at the same time when I can just use it with my rogaine mixed. Should I stick with it?

I don't think anybody will be able to give you the answer to that. We are all trying an experimental drug and If you experience any issues, you should definitely play it safe and apply them at different times. Your hair is not worth more than your health.

[dan1938]

Ru is working for me but systemic absorption is kicking my ass. I have even tried reducing the dose as well as using KB solution to no avail. are there any other vehicles currently being tried that could reduce systemic absorption?

[robodoc]

Ru is working for me but systemic absorption is kicking my ass. I have even tried reducing the dose as well as using KB solution to no avail. are there any other vehicles currently being tried that could reduce systemic absorption?

I could not find much on solubility and absorption of RU but maybe Hellouser's combo of Everclear and PEG is worth trying. I have been dissolving the RU in IsoAlcohol 70% and the adding Minox 5% when the RU is in solution. After one week no benficial effect or sides whatsoever so hoping for something!

For the morning, I apply Minox for about 30-45 min while I get ready and then shower off. Hydro/alcoholic solutions are generally quickly and well absorbed so perhaps a way to get the Minox twice a day. It may reduce systemic absorption and sides but that is blowing in the wind.

[dan1938]

I could not find much on solubility and absorption of RU but maybe Hellouser's combo of Everclear and PEG is worth trying. I have been dissolving the RU in IsoAlcohol 70% and the adding Minox 5% when the RU is in solution. After one week no benficial effect or sides whatsoever so hoping for something!

For the morning, I apply Minox for about 30-45 min while I get ready and then shower off. Hydro/alcoholic solutions are generally quickly and well absorbed so perhaps a way to get the Minox twice a day. It may reduce systemic absorption and sides but that is blowing in the wind.

thanks for the feedback man, it seems like nobody reads these forums nowadays. I have tried isopropanol/PG vehicle as well and it was the same. My skin is weird, it absorbs anything like sponge. I have been thinking about incorporating a vasoconstrictor before application or together with vehicle. They have been shown to prolong local effect and reduce systemic absorption in clinical studies. Liposomes are also good vehicles. I thought KB solution has a liposome and that's why I tried it. From what I have gathered it has 4 ingredients, but I haven't been able to find out what they are. do you have any info on that?

[robodoc]

thanks for the feedback man, it seems like nobody reads these forums nowadays. I have tried isopropanol/PG vehicle as well and it was the same. My skin is weird, it absorbs anything like sponge. I have been thinking about incorporating a vasoconstrictor before application or together with vehicle. They have been shown to prolong local effect and reduce systemic absorption in clinical studies. Liposomes are also good vehicles. I thought KB solution has a liposome and that's why I tried it. From what I have gathered it has 4 ingredients, but I haven't been able to find out what they are. do you have any info on that?

Liposomal? You are getting high tech and that may improve absorption which is not what you need. To limit absorption look at this way, reduce amount of time on the skin or duration if you say you absorb well. Maybe 3 days a week of RU may work, maybe 5 days, etc. I would approach it that way. It is an experiment for you to find out. . I would not mess with a vasoconstrictor..

[doke]

RU isn't as good premixed as it degrades quickly, especially when it's not stored properly. (like when it's shipped or caught in customs) Also, 1% RU from MPB treatments isn't enough RU

wrong if mixed in kb solution premixed can last up to six months and by the way new mpb solutions will have a 10% premix soon but i suppose it will be pricey although they have a new vip scheme i like there new site its more profesional then the old site.
I see anagen ru is cheaper.

[cookies]

Doke, could you try to use punctuation? It would make your posts readable.

[doke]

[QUOTE=cookies;164652]Doke, could you try to use punctuation? It would make your posts readable.[/QUO

please can you not use punctuation?

[dan1938]

Liposomal? You are getting high tech and that may improve absorption which is not what you need. To limit absorption look at this way, reduce amount of time on the skin or duration if you say you absorb well. Maybe 3 days a week of RU may work, maybe 5 days, etc. I would approach it that way. It is an experiment for you to find out. . I would not mess with a vasoconstrictor..

What is your take on copper peptides and fluridil? Since my skin absorption capability is great, I thought these might work for me without the systemic sides.

[doke]

mpb treatments new 10% ru normal or plus version $115 would you just use 1ml a day? also its a bit costly at 100mgs a day would kane you still need kb solution and or your own mix or get anagen ru instead which is cheaper?

[doke]

I have already posted this news on another thread but kane has told me that he has a company in europe with ru ready mixed at 5% and 8% also the powder is on sale with kb solution so good news for us in europe.

[dan1938]

However there is more affordable shipping of just 23.50 at RU-solutions. When you take this into account most all products come out to be nearly IDENTICAL pricing. Also considering how questionable kane's "KB" really is... ONe time he told a fellow PG was an ingredient and was in his solution. PG most definitely is NOT part of the KB formula! lol So equivalent price for a really well made US product or a sketch unmarked blue bottle that for some reason is 50mls not even 60ml like any normal treatment would be (minoxidil for example)

Look at the total price, divide it our by how much RU is actually in each bottle AND consider the fact that you are missing a full 10ml with Kane. Then work out the price/value of the two options.

SO lets see. For a UK customer for example lets compare value

KANE: 8% KBformula 104.89 + $35 Shipping = $139.69 (50ml*0.08 = 4grams RU) 139.69/4g = $34.92/gram
RU-SOLUTIONS:10% KBformula 115 + 23.50 Shipping = $138.5 (60ml *0.1 = 6 grams RU) 138.5/6g = $23.08/gram

And you build loyalty discount points at RU-Solutions ... So... Hmm...

I don't know if it has to do with Kane's way of making KB, but I feel like the KB I got from him has actually worsened the systemic absorption of RU. I also believe it has a vasodilator as I am particularly sensitive to them.

[lilpauly]

However there is more affordable shipping of just 23.50 at RU-solutions. When you take this into account most all products come out to be nearly IDENTICAL pricing. Also considering how questionable kane's "KB" really is... ONe time he told a fellow PG was an ingredient and was in his solution. PG most definitely is NOT part of the KB formula! lol So equivalent price for a really well made US product or a sketch unmarked blue bottle that for some reason is 50mls not even 60ml like any normal treatment would be (minoxidil for example)

Look at the total price, divide it our by how much RU is actually in each bottle AND consider the fact that you are missing a full 10ml with Kane. Then work out the price/value of the two options.

SO lets see. For a UK customer for example lets compare value

KANE: 8% KBformula 104.89 + $35 Shipping = $139.69 (50ml*0.08 = 4grams RU) 139.69/4g = $34.92/gram
RU-SOLUTIONS:10% KBformula 115 + 23.50 Shipping = $138.5 (60ml *0.1 = 6 grams RU) 138.5/6g = $23.08/gram

And you build loyalty discount points at RU-Solutions ... So... Hmm...

Lets not start another fear campaign Kane's kb solution is legit and so is his ru it's been third party tested by hairykirisna . Fear campaign , shame on h Gerald I though u were not going to do this