Hellouser's RU Log (with Minox, CB Nizoral and Saw Palmetto)

[baldee]

hellouser, did you ever use fin ? If yes, did you get any results ? I'm interested in starting RU or CB, after loosing most of my hair while on the Big 3. How likely is it to respond to a topical anti-androgen if you did not respond to a systemic...

[DesperateOne]

Was actually in LESS than four months. I was shedding between December - February, got on RU @ 100mg/1ml and started to regain density from March - May. Then quit RU in May as well. Started shedding again in July and I'm still going with shedding, though its finally reduced somewhat since starting CB about 2 weeks ago. However, I did use oleyl in my vehicle for CB and it caused great scalp irritation, burning, itching and shedding. I've switched to ethanol/PG for CB, hopefully I'll get back to baseline and then some in due time.

My libido is off the charts the last week or so. Erections are rock hard and am getting easily turned on. Booyah.

I'm contemplating buying another 10grams of RU but this time applying it between 20-50mg at 1.5ml using my Kirkland's Minoxidil as the vehicle as well as at least 2-3 days after dermarolling (don't want it to go systemic, dermarolling will significantly increase the chances of that).

10g of RU while using only 30mg/1.5ml would last me 1-2 years considering I'd be doing it 3-4 times a week instead of every day. Not a bad way to spend $200 bucks on hair loss treatments for nearly 2 years! I may opt to get just 5 grams, I highly doubt it will still be good after 1 year... nevermind 2 years!

In a post somewhere you mentioned that you shouldn't go lower than 50mg/1ml a day because it wouldn't do shit. I also heard on the show that if you miss just one day of RU application, you will Shed like crazy, is this true? Since I am on fin already I would assume I should be able to miss a day or two while I use the derma roller and not get excessive shedding.

[hellouser]

Would lipogaine be a good vehicle for RU, it contains ethanol and pg?

Depending on the concentration of ethanol to PG, yeah it should be fine. I was using around 0.6ml - 0.7ml of ethanol and 0.3ml - 0.4ml of PG for RU. Worked well for me. Would be an interesting combo: RU/Minox/Azelaic Acid in a single dose.

[Jazz1]

Would lipogaine be a good vehicle for RU, it contains ethanol and pg?

[hellouser]

1st question

How do you manage to apply these three (CB,RU,MINOXIDIL) in one day? Which to use first? Whats the sequence? Im really curious.

I only use CB and Minox right now, and before it was only RU and Minox. Usually I apply Minoxidil around 6pm (after work) and then RU at around midnight before bed.

2nd question

As soon I will get my CB mixed with Ethanol/PG, which to apply first before bedtime? CB or Minoxidil and how long do I need to wait before applying the other?

Thank a lot Hellouser. You are out expert

Ideally I think 8 hours between applications is good, depending on how fast the topical dries. Sometimes I would use Minox at 6pm, RU at 11pm, and Minox again at midnight. I never apply minox first because its pretty heavily and wont allow (imo) RU in ethanol/PG to pass through it.

[HARIRI]

Was actually in LESS than four months. I was shedding between December - February, got on RU @ 100mg/1ml and started to regain density from March - May. Then quit RU in May as well. Started shedding again in July and I'm still going with shedding, though its finally reduced somewhat since starting CB about 2 weeks ago. However, I did use oleyl in my vehicle for CB and it caused great scalp irritation, burning, itching and shedding. I've switched to ethanol/PG for CB, hopefully I'll get back to baseline and then some in due time.

My libido is off the charts the last week or so. Erections are rock hard and am getting easily turned on. Booyah.

I'm contemplating buying another 10grams of RU but this time applying it between 20-50mg at 1.5ml using my Kirkland's Minoxidil as the vehicle as well as at least 2-3 days after dermarolling (don't want it to go systemic, dermarolling will significantly increase the chances of that).

10g of RU while using only 30mg/1.5ml would last me 1-2 years considering I'd be doing it 3-4 times a week instead of every day. Not a bad way to spend $200 bucks on hair loss treatments for nearly 2 years! I may opt to get just 5 grams, I highly doubt it will still be good after 1 year... nevermind 2 years!

1st question

How do you manage to apply these three (CB,RU,MINOXIDIL) in one day? Which to use first? Whats the sequence? Im really curious.

2nd question

As soon I will get my CB mixed with Ethanol/PG, which to apply first before bedtime? CB or Minoxidil and how long do I need to wait before applying the other?

Thank a lot Hellouser. You are out expert

[hellouser]

So hellouser you would say that once you up the antee to 100mg of RU a day with the correct vehicle, you saw regrowth of RU in about four months? I am wondering because I got my RU today and thinking about using it soon.

Was actually in LESS than four months. I was shedding between December - February, got on RU @ 100mg/1ml and started to regain density from March - May. Then quit RU in May as well. Started shedding again in July and I'm still going with shedding, though its finally reduced somewhat since starting CB about 2 weeks ago. However, I did use oleyl in my vehicle for CB and it caused great scalp irritation, burning, itching and shedding. I've switched to ethanol/PG for CB, hopefully I'll get back to baseline and then some in due time.

My libido is off the charts the last week or so. Erections are rock hard and am getting easily turned on. Booyah.

I'm contemplating buying another 10grams of RU but this time applying it between 20-50mg at 1.5ml using my Kirkland's Minoxidil as the vehicle as well as at least 2-3 days after dermarolling (don't want it to go systemic, dermarolling will significantly increase the chances of that).

10g of RU while using only 30mg/1.5ml would last me 1-2 years considering I'd be doing it 3-4 times a week instead of every day. Not a bad way to spend $200 bucks on hair loss treatments for nearly 2 years! I may opt to get just 5 grams, I highly doubt it will still be good after 1 year... nevermind 2 years!

[The Dark Knight]

Sorry for asking this here but how do I pay Kane? How does Western Union or Bank Wire Transfer work?

[DesperateOne]

So hellouser you would say that once you up the antee to 100mg of RU a day with the correct vehicle, you saw regrowth of RU in about four months? I am wondering because I got my RU today and thinking about using it soon.

[nliyan25]

Tessa

Sounds good man keep at it and keep us updated.

Yeah dude, for sure. I'm hoping things thicker up on top, that's my main concern.

[simba]

This is sweet. I've been using Ru58841 for a week and a half now, and after a few days of slight extra shedding(not that much more than usual), I only lost about thirty hairs yesterday compared to a usual 100-200 hairs. I hope this gets better. I'm also using rogaine-5%, one time a day. This is the third time I'm using it in the past 2 years. Previously, when I used minoxidil, I shed more than 200 hairs a day for a few months but after using minoxidil for two weeks now, that hasn't happened this time. I'm hoping the thin hair in the middle and front of my scalp grows back thicker the next few months. Wish me luck!

Sounds good man keep at it and keep us updated.

[nliyan25]

hair loss

This is sweet. I've been using Ru58841 for a week and a half now, and after a few days of slight extra shedding(not that much more than usual), I only lost about thirty hairs yesterday compared to a usual 100-200 hairs. I hope this gets better. I'm also using rogaine-5%, one time a day. This is the third time I'm using it in the past 2 years. Previously, when I used minoxidil, I shed more than 200 hairs a day for a few months but after using minoxidil for two weeks now, that hasn't happened this time. I'm hoping the thin hair in the middle and front of my scalp grows back thicker the next few months. Wish me luck!

[clandestine]

Kane might be releasing a CB premixed eventually but I doubt you'd want to wait.

I'd say order CB from Kane, and just get PG and Ethanol yourself, do your own mixing.

[HARIRI]

I stopped trying to wait for those clowns at ID

express shipped the vehicle from mpb trtmnts

Just emailed ID again and they said no clue on arrival date yet, stringing us along for months now, f that

So what is the solution now? Do we have to wait for our pre mixed CB order from ID or cancel the order and ask for refund!!!

Is ID worth the wait or we should order CB powder from Kane shop and PG/Ethanol vehicle from MPBtreatment which will be much more expensive!!!

Any opinions???

[Cob984]

I stopped trying to wait for those clowns at ID

express shipped the vehicle from mpb trtmnts

Just emailed ID again and they said no clue on arrival date yet, stringing us along for months now, f that