Hellouser's RU Log (with Minox, CB Nizoral and Saw Palmetto)

[hellouser]

Not sure if I follow you. When you say "libido is going nuts" what exactly do you mean? That you have, for example, spontaneous erections? Or just an increased appetite for sex?

Saw Palmetto is included in formulas for improving the male functions, mostly prostate, and this especially for men above 50. If it impairs libido, how can it be effective in improving the sexual function of older men? I don't understand; something does not add up.

Update:

Its getting worse. Seriously, I can't go for 5 minutes without a raging boner. Its been about 7-14 days without saw palmetto. I was getting annoyed with the sexual overdrive and took a 550mg pill of Saw Palmetto yesterday to keep it down... seems like its somewhat working today, I think it kicked in about 12 hours later and im able to sit somewhat still at work. Thank god, lol.

[Conpecia]

Doesn't matter which goes on first?

[clandestine]

I am very close to purchasing and experimenting with RU. So much work to prepare but I just can't risk losing what I have it would crush me.

How would I go about applying Rogaine foam and RU in the same day? Which should I apply first, and when (morning/evening)?

Just apply them a few hours apart, ideally. And be consistent.

[Conpecia]

I am very close to purchasing and experimenting with RU. So much work to prepare but I just can't risk losing what I have it would crush me.

How would I go about applying Rogaine foam and RU in the same day? Which should I apply first, and when (morning/evening)?

[jlantern]

This was perhaps already addressed and I missed it, but would RU be any good for a slick bald head? Or do you need a good amount of hair still present for that to work, like in hellouser's case?

1 question: DOES IT LAST?

What happens when you quit RU? All that is gained will be lost?

So in summary it looks like we have two well documented cases of RU use now between Hell and the other famous guy...however the treatments are not just RU in either case and treatments change pretty rapidly for both. Makes it a bit hard to say it is the RU, and it is only two cases.

Results looks great though. I think I will try it fairly soon.

Very simple explanation here, for me hellouser lilpauly irish hell el dut etc .. RU has proven to be a powerful "anti-dht" Treatments like Minox are not powerful enough to keep up with DHT in our cases. In all of our cases we stacked treatments. 1 or 2(or 3) anti DHT elements i.e. fin dut or RU, keto. Growth stimulators minox, AHK, capillogain and also hair heath supports like oils, biotin shampoos. I can tell you right now RU is the foundation of hellouser lilpauly and my stack. without it I would not have the success I am having now.

At first minox worked well for me .. then I started losing faster. adding fin .. keto .. figuring out what worked and what didn't. In the meantime I lost some ground(I just recently started RU, should have started a year ago.) Its not too bad and I am showing signs of regrowth. One can assume if I stop RU I will see the same symptoms as before. Will my hair fall out all at once .. No.. but will DHT catch back up with it yes! As for stoppping minox, you have to realize it only helps your hair regrow to beat the affects DHT. That is why when you stop you LOSE fast, DHT has already been at work for a while with those follicles.

That being said treating hair loss is a multi tier process.. DHT suppression, regrowth stimulant, hair support. The last I think a lot of people forget about because the things we use to treat hair loss is bad for your hair.. All the alcohol and chemists in it all the time.

You need to really take your own approach to what you think will work best. Honestly with some treatments like AHK, RU biotin etc there isnt enough research definitively to really say if it works well and how much. Additionally, MPB is a big business so you will have a lot of scams.

That leads us to why we are here. Start your treatment .. start a log, document it and share what you honestly think works. I think RU for me is working really well. On the other hand I think fin only slowed my loss down. I am using both for synergetic results. I plan on quiting fin when I stop seeing gains from both ru and fin.

[thatkidd]

So in summary it looks like we have two well documented cases of RU use now between Hell and the other famous guy...however the treatments are not just RU in either case and treatments change pretty rapidly for both. Makes it a bit hard to say it is the RU, and it is only two cases.

Results looks great though. I think I will try it fairly soon.

[bananana]

1 question: DOES IT LAST?

What happens when you quit RU? All that is gained will be lost?

[Vox]

This was perhaps already addressed and I missed it, but would RU be any good for a slick bald head? Or do you need a good amount of hair still present for that to work, like in hellouser's case?

[jlantern]

OK thanks. If all the data is dose dependent on 50mg for a given vehicle then it is what it is. Worse case I can just hit the smaller area with the standard dose.

I don't think moving to a lesser treatment was the issue. If I quit ******* cold turkey I would not have shed that fast. The problem was I sent a new signal to my hair follicles and they reacted accordingly. Then the lesser treatment Foam, I agree, could not promote regrowth. I think I only recovered about 40% of what I shed out.

thats a scary story, but I think there is more to it .. but hell I have no idea what your condition is or what is looks like. so all i can say is just use it on the hair line see what happens then go all over. A cascading treatment application doesn't sound like a promising way to go. Good luck .. keep us updated

[marikeo]

Comparing Starting RU and Switching to Rogain from ******* is comparing apples and oranges.

You went from a strong treatment to a lesser treatment. Here you are adding to which will help stop DHT. If you have a lot of miniaturization it could shed fast I would imagine. You can start with 50mg I dont know how well it will work with less no one to my knowledge has tested.

OK thanks. If all the data is dose dependent on 50mg for a given vehicle then it is what it is. Worse case I can just hit the smaller area with the standard dose.

I don't think moving to a lesser treatment was the issue. If I quit ******* cold turkey I would not have shed that fast. The problem was I sent a new signal to my hair follicles and they reacted accordingly. Then the lesser treatment Foam, I agree, could not promote regrowth. I think I only recovered about 40% of what I shed out.

[jlantern]

Well, I think you mean "overly cautious" and not "stupid", right

I have been fighting hairloss for a very long time. For the most part I have been able to hold off what was a very aggressive hair loss in my 20s right into my 40s.

However, last time I made a sudden switch I paid dearly for it. I switched from Dr. Lee's ******* to Rogaine Foam (no choice). When I did, I lost 1/3 of my hair in under a month. I am sure you all can imagine the pain that caused!

Right now, about 90% of the hair on my head is there because it is being treated with topicals. But those hairs are all still in some form of miniaturization. Growing very, very slowly and dormant most of the time.

So, if I move blindly into anything, I risk triggering a shed that could theoretically push out most of the hair I have! No place to hide if that happens.

Hope that helps you understand my caution and my question on the correct amount of RU if I am treating a smaller area of my head. Should I use less than the promoted 50mg?

Thanks everyone. Great forum.

Comparing Starting RU and Switching to Rogain from ******* is comparing apples and oranges.

You went from a strong treatment to a lesser treatment. Here you are adding to which will help stop DHT. If you have a lot of miniaturization it could shed fast I would imagine. You can start with 50mg I dont know how well it will work with less no one to my knowledge has tested.

[marikeo]

This sounds real stupid to me. Just use it, stick it out, let it work. It has to get worst before it can get better.

Well, I think you mean "overly cautious" and not "stupid", right

I have been fighting hairloss for a very long time. For the most part I have been able to hold off what was a very aggressive hair loss in my 20s right into my 40s.

However, last time I made a sudden switch I paid dearly for it. I switched from Dr. Lee's ******* to Rogaine Foam (no choice). When I did, I lost 1/3 of my hair in under a month. I am sure you all can imagine the pain that caused!

Right now, about 90% of the hair on my head is there because it is being treated with topicals. But those hairs are all still in some form of miniaturization. Growing very, very slowly and dormant most of the time.

So, if I move blindly into anything, I risk triggering a shed that could theoretically push out most of the hair I have! No place to hide if that happens.

Hope that helps you understand my caution and my question on the correct amount of RU if I am treating a smaller area of my head. Should I use less than the promoted 50mg?

Thanks everyone. Great forum.

[SoClose]

Wohw, Nice improvemant hellouser..


here is a post of ziom1990 on HLH of his 10 weeks RU journey.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=101985&STARTPAGE=7&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

[IMG]http://s18.postimg.org/q2jjfu1x5/*******2.jpg[/IMG]

This is absolutely incredible and truly inspiring as this is the haircut I'm going to be going for.

Anybody know if this guy is on Fin?

[jlantern]

One approach may be to stagger the parts of my scalp to which I apply RU to offset shed cycles should they occur. So perhaps start at my hairline for a couple of weeks before trying on the crown and interior.

This sounds real stupid to me. Just use it, stick it out, let it work. It has to get worst before it can get better.

[MrBlonde]

Thanks for the replies guys. I am thinking of pulling the trigger on this due to all the good words.

I presume RU is for life and as soon as you stop you shed what you gained quickly?

Also had anyone in the UK or Ireland had trouble getting RU through customs? The stopped my fin shipment when I was crazy enough to consider it