Hellouser's RU Log (with Minox, CB Nizoral and Saw Palmetto)

[The Dark Knight]

Same side effects as Finasteride *if* it goes systemic. Although RU is supposed to have a very short half life and the chances of it going systemic are somewhat low. Just don't dermaroll with RU58841, that pretty much guarantees it going to the bloodstream.

How many applications would it take to go systematic? I was taking 1ml 5% RU everyday and got very bad sides

[hellouser]

How many applications would it take to go systematic? I was taking 1ml 5% RU everyday and got very bad sides

Too many variables; thickness of skin, concentration of alcohol, sebum production, etc. It could only take ONE application for it to go systemic. It most likely did for me after I; exfoliated, showered and gently dermarolled. This made it ridiculously easy for RU to get through the skin.

[yan]

Update:

3rd day in on CB, last night I skipped taking CB and shedding at my desk is more or less back to normal. So far it looks like this stuff needs to be taken DAILY.

I'll be trying out oleyl/pg tomorrow.

If you take CB some more weeks or months, you should be able to even skip a whole month.

The math is easy:

After stopping fin, your system needs approx. 1-2 weeks to rebuild DHT. After those 2 weeks, DHT begins to attack your hair follicles. But the thing is, it needs like 3-6 months till you see hair loss, bcs DHT does damage over time to your hair follicles, so you won`t lose your hair instant.

Only difference with CB is the 1-2 weeks. After skipping a CB day, DHT is instantly back at the hair follicle and starts attacking it. But you won`t lose your hair, it takes the same 3-6 months.

So in theory, you should lose your hair approx 3-6 months after quiting fin and 2.5-5.5 months after quiting CB.

But of course, you take other stuff like minox and RU, so my math is quite useless in your case.

[hellouser]

If you take CB some more weeks or months, you should be able to even skip a whole month.

The math is easy:

After stopping fin, your system needs approx. 1-2 weeks to rebuild DHT. After those 2 weeks, DHT begins to attack your hair follicles. But the thing is, it needs like 3-6 months till you see hair loss, bcs DHT does damage over time to your hair follicles, so you won`t lose your hair instant.

Only difference with CB is the 1-2 weeks. After skipping a CB day, DHT is instantly back at the hair follicle and starts attacking it. But you won`t lose your hair, it takes the same 3-6 months.

So in theory, you should lose your hair approx 3-6 months after quiting fin and 2.5-5.5 months after quiting CB.

But of course, you take other stuff like minox and RU, so my math is quite useless in your case.

But thats when taking finasteride orally. The body stops producing it where as on CB your only blocking DHT at the follicle and DHT is abundant all day, EVERY day.

[The Dark Knight]

Too many variables; thickness of skin, concentration of alcohol, sebum production, etc. It could only take ONE application for it to go systemic. It most likely did for me after I; exfoliated, showered and gently dermarolled. This made it ridiculously easy for RU to get through the skin.

Interesting, guess I'm just to sensitive to bloccking DHT

Also, thanks for what your're doing for all of us, hope you and the other guys working on this can find a suitable vehicle so we can atleast keep what we got on our heads

[hellouser]

Interesting, guess I'm just to sensitive to bloccking DHT

Also, thanks for what your're doing for all of us, hope you and the other guys working on this can find a suitable vehicle so we can atleast keep what we got on our heads

KB solution, a vehicle for RU is supposed to eliminate the side effects as.. you could try mixing RU in that?

[yan]

But thats when taking finasteride orally. The body stops producing it where as on CB your only blocking DHT at the follicle and DHT is abundant all day, EVERY day.

Hell thats exactly what I described in my post!? That doesn`t matter!

1-2 weeks after fin orally, DHT levels are back to normal. But you won`t lose hair after 1-2 weeks. It takes some months.

I took 1mg fin daily for 5 months. It took about 3-4 months after quiting fin till I saw hair loss.

[hellouser]

Hell thats exactly what I described in my post!? That doesn`t matter!

1-2 weeks after fin orally, DHT levels are back to normal. But you won`t lose hair after 1-2 weeks. It takes some months.

I took 1mg fin daily for 5 months. It took about 3-4 months after quiting fin till I saw hair loss.

Yeah but noticeable hair loss isn't immediate anyway. Just like regular hair loss is only noticeable when about HALF your density has been lost. The same would apply to quitting fin or CB, you'd start losing immediately but you wouldnt notice it immediately.

[Avacfc]

Hellouser if your already seeing CB stopping your shedding can we say this is an early positive as not many treatments out there do this so quickly.
I'm ready to jump on the bandwagon but I'm unsure whether or not to use enthanol or oleyl.

[hellouser]

Hellouser if your already seeing CB stopping your shedding can we say this is an early positive as not many treatments out there do this so quickly.
I'm ready to jump on the bandwagon but I'm unsure whether or not to use enthanol or oleyl.

Ethanol is easy to get, start off with that at least and while your on CB wiht ethanol, work on trying to get oleyl. Don't waste time by allowing AGA to progress.

[yan]

Yeah but noticeable hair loss isn't immediate anyway. Just like regular hair loss is only noticeable when about HALF your density has been lost. The same would apply to quitting fin or CB, you'd start losing immediately but you wouldnt notice it immediately.

Well I saw hairs at my hairline which disappeared after 3-4 months. DHT needs time, a hair gets weaker and weaker, but this is a process of weeks / months. So I guess you could skip CB for lets say 2 weeks holidays and you wouldn`t lose any hairs you gained through CB / fin...

[Phatalis]

This might sound annoying but I'm jut going to say it.

I don't get it. Does RU work? Does CB actually work? The home-made versions? I'm asking because every thread I see this being done on has 50million different ways to prepare it.

Not only that but the people doing it on here are also on a plethora of other shit so I can't actually take it seriously when they say it works. It's not like they just use CB alone.

It's always CB, RU, Minox, Fin and then they say CB works but how the **** do they actually know?? You can't perform a test that way it makes no ****ing sense.

I would be on CB now as I think it's our hope but I'm still not convinced it works. And even then Kane had a bad version out for a while and people used that and said it works when it wasn't even the real CB.

So seriously, DOES CB WORK? Which version of it? How is it prepared actually the proper way? Has it been tested alone and by itself without all the other crap also?

I appreciate and love that you guys do this, you're amazing... but at the same time all this stuff was so messy that I just didn't take it seriously and was waiting for Cosmo to release theirs in a few years.

[hellouser]

This might sound annoying but I'm jut going to say it.

I don't get it. Does RU work? Does CB actually work? The home-made versions? I'm asking because every thread I see this being done on has 50million different ways to prepare it.

50 million ways = ethanol/pg, oleyl/pg, dmi/dmso, iontophoresis? So... 4 ways is 50 million? Ok.

Hold on, lets try... CB in KB or ethatnol/oleyl/pg... so a maximum of 6 ways.

So seriously, DOES CB WORK? Which version of it? How is it prepared actually the proper way? Has it been tested alone and by itself without all the other crap also?

I appreciate and love that you guys do this, you're amazing... but at the same time all this stuff was so messy that I just didn't take it seriously and was waiting for Cosmo to release theirs in a few years.

There have been a few members that I've seen with results equal to finasteride and better, but those who have been able to use CB were forking out serious cash to have it done. Only recently has CB come to a relatively low price.

Youre not going to see the results YOU want in such a short amount of time when damn near all of us just got the right form of it recently. As you know, hair grows damn slow so its going to be many weeks before most users of CB will see an improvement, and thats not even takign into consideration any possible shed.

[Phatalis]

50 million ways = ethanol/pg, oleyl/pg, dmi/dmso, iontophoresis? So... 4 ways is 50 million? Ok.

Hold on, lets try... CB in KB or ethatnol/oleyl/pg... so a maximum of 6 ways.



There have been a few members that I've seen with results equal to finasteride and better, but those who have been able to use CB were forking out serious cash to have it done. Only recently has CB come to a relatively low price.

Youre not going to see the results YOU want in such a short amount of time when damn near all of us just got the right form of it recently. As you know, hair grows damn slow so its going to be many weeks before most users of CB will see an improvement, and thats not even takign into consideration any possible shed.

I'm more just trying to halt further loss tbh... thats all I care about.

[Phatalis]

50 million ways = ethanol/pg, oleyl/pg, dmi/dmso, iontophoresis? So... 4 ways is 50 million? Ok.

Hold on, lets try... CB in KB or ethatnol/oleyl/pg... so a maximum of 6 ways.



There have been a few members that I've seen with results equal to finasteride and better, but those who have been able to use CB were forking out serious cash to have it done. Only recently has CB come to a relatively low price.

Youre not going to see the results YOU want in such a short amount of time when damn near all of us just got the right form of it recently. As you know, hair grows damn slow so its going to be many weeks before most users of CB will see an improvement, and thats not even takign into consideration any possible shed.

Sorry I wasn't trying to be offensive. Just had a moment of frustration. You're the shit bro. I appreciate what you and everyone does.