DESMOND... Where you at?

[stayhopeful]

What's up brother? I very much enjoy your posts. I'm sick of all this negativity across the board and I am very curious, since you've been MIA for a couple days, what's your analysis about the aderans news, Scarless FUE news, and upcoming histogen. I am sure you have some expectation please let us know if you have any analysis about what's upcoming!

Cheers mate

[HARIRI]

This forum becomes all about GHO SHIT. Got tired. Whenever you talk about anything his name comes and then fights started. We hope winston controls this thing and calm everyone down like other forums (Hair Restoration Network) where argues always been monitored. We miss you DESMOND84 and your constructive contributions. I hope you are aware of the scareless FUE method by Dr. Wesely.

[stayhopeful]

Yea I'm fed up with the whining bullshit, serves no purpose. We have three huge events to look foward to, and any combination of the two is heaven but even one out of three will be a game changer..c'mon now

[hellouser]

Yea I'm fed up with the whining bullshit, serves no purpose. We have three huge events to look foward to, and any combination of the two is heaven but even one out of three will be a game changer..c'mon now

Three? Aderans and Histogen are two.... whats the third??

[stayhopeful]

More details on scarless FUE. You heard the podcast. There is potential for FUT density, increased graft survival, and theoretical possibility of expanded donor access. I don't know about you, buddy, but I am super down for alll of that, particularly if the current top surgeons adopt this technique.

[rdawg]

Three? Aderans and Histogen are two.... whats the third??

Bimatoprost is a big one too.

[stayhopeful]

good call.. but when is an announcement expected.. and furthermore, does it even seem like a prospective option? I mean, it seems to me, from what I know at this point at least, that it is essentially a minoxidil with many of the same characteristics. That is, you have to apply it daily and you can expect mild regrowth.. let me know if you have any insight, though, mannn

[hellouser]

Bimatoprost is a big one too.

I'd say CB-03-01 and BNP-32 are far more exciting.

BNP-32 showed results that are better than minox, finasteride and ru5884 all COMBINED. It basically regrew a shit-ton of hair on individuals of 60 years of age and older and from the small trial it showed no side effects (injected use) Of the 45 subjects only 4 complained of adverse reactions, of those 4, one was in the placebo group. (And it's also worth noting that all participants had pre existing heart conditions). Of he other 3, 1 suffered hypertension, 1 suffered dizziness and one suffered blurry vision. Keep in mind the body already produces BNP-32 naturally.

Now heres something to think about;

If 60+ year olds didnt get sides from topical use, how much better off would a younger HEALTHY individual be with any potential side effects?

Now here's the even more exciting part that should render all other topicals useless;

If BNP-32 applied topically regrew hair in slick bald areas back to normal densities on individuals of 60+ years of age who VERY LIKELY have had these slick bald areas for a long time as well as been affected by baldness by 10, 20, 30+ years where the follicle was either dormant or so miniaturized it was far from noticeable even as peach fuzz, what could the potential be for someone whos recently been balding? Or someone who hasnt been balding for that long?

Just look at the results:

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_62

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_50

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_47

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_56

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_24

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_51

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_64 <--- this example is where BNP-32 makes every other solution a JOKE.


Here's the clinical trial:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00252187

When people get excited about scarless FUE... it doesn't matter, your're still destroying your donor hair and MPB is usually progressive so ultimately it will get worse and that scarless FUE is going to be moot.

I'm seriously thinking of trying BNP-32 as a topical, but am just as seriously considering the risks and backing out. I just got a supply of CB good for about 5 months, but I know its not going to do much if anything on my completely bald temples, the only topical that could do anything about that looks like BNP-32.

In any case, regardless of BNP or CB, these are not excuses to stop demand for Dr. Lauster, Tsuji Labs, Aderans, Histogen or Replicel to finally give us a legitimate cure or something substantially better than finasteride.

[stayhopeful]

Those are extraordinary pics. Better than histogen or aderans have provided us this far. But what is the outlook for having the product able to purchase in a marketable form?

And no offense, but enough with this nagging about demanding a release. Don't you get that these people are just like us and like money? In fact, they probably like it more than we do. Therefore we can rely on natural forces to bring these products to market. I believe they are doing everything in their power to bring these items to the market ASAP because a dollar sooner is better than a dollar later.

[Henkeh91]

I'd say CB-03-01 and BNP-32 are far more exciting.

BNP-32 showed results that are better than minox, finasteride and ru5884 all COMBINED. It basically regrew a shit-ton of hair on individuals of 60 years of age and older and from the small trial it showed no side effects (injected use) Of the 45 subjects only 4 complained of adverse reactions, of those 4, one was in the placebo group. (And it's also worth noting that all participants had pre existing heart conditions). Of he other 3, 1 suffered hypertension, 1 suffered dizziness and one suffered blurry vision. Keep in mind the body already produces BNP-32 naturally.

Now heres something to think about;

If 60+ year olds didnt get sides from topical use, how much better off would a younger HEALTHY individual be with any potential side effects?

Now here's the even more exciting part that should render all other topicals useless;

If BNP-32 applied topically regrew hair in slick bald areas back to normal densities on individuals of 60+ years of age who VERY LIKELY have had these slick bald areas for a long time as well as been affected by baldness by 10, 20, 30+ years where the follicle was either dormant or so miniaturized it was far from noticeable even as peach fuzz, what could the potential be for someone whos recently been balding? Or someone who hasnt been balding for that long?

Just look at the results:

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_62

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_50

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_47

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_56

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_24

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_51

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_64 <--- this example is where BNP-32 makes every other solution a JOKE.


Here's the clinical trial:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00252187

When people get excited about scarless FUE... it doesn't matter, your're still destroying your donor hair and MPB is usually progressive so ultimately it will get worse and that scarless FUE is going to be moot.

I'm seriously thinking of trying BNP-32 as a topical, but am just as seriously considering the risks and backing out. I just got a supply of CB good for about 5 months, but I know its not going to do much if anything on my completely bald temples, the only topical that could do anything about that looks like BNP-32.

In any case, regardless of BNP or CB, these are not excuses to stop demand for Dr. Lauster, Tsuji Labs, Aderans, Histogen or Replicel to finally give us a legitimate cure or something substantially better than finasteride.

Wow! That's some great results!

[Thinning87]

I'd say CB-03-01 and BNP-32 are far more exciting.

BNP-32 showed results that are better than minox, finasteride and ru5884 all COMBINED. It basically regrew a shit-ton of hair on individuals of 60 years of age and older and from the small trial it showed no side effects (injected use) Of the 45 subjects only 4 complained of adverse reactions, of those 4, one was in the placebo group. (And it's also worth noting that all participants had pre existing heart conditions). Of he other 3, 1 suffered hypertension, 1 suffered dizziness and one suffered blurry vision. Keep in mind the body already produces BNP-32 naturally.

Now heres something to think about;

If 60+ year olds didnt get sides from topical use, how much better off would a younger HEALTHY individual be with any potential side effects?

Now here's the even more exciting part that should render all other topicals useless;

If BNP-32 applied topically regrew hair in slick bald areas back to normal densities on individuals of 60+ years of age who VERY LIKELY have had these slick bald areas for a long time as well as been affected by baldness by 10, 20, 30+ years where the follicle was either dormant or so miniaturized it was far from noticeable even as peach fuzz, what could the potential be for someone whos recently been balding? Or someone who hasnt been balding for that long?

Just look at the results:

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_62

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_50

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_47

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_56

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_24

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_51

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_64 <--- this example is where BNP-32 makes every other solution a JOKE.


Here's the clinical trial:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00252187

When people get excited about scarless FUE... it doesn't matter, your're still destroying your donor hair and MPB is usually progressive so ultimately it will get worse and that scarless FUE is going to be moot.

I'm seriously thinking of trying BNP-32 as a topical, but am just as seriously considering the risks and backing out. I just got a supply of CB good for about 5 months, but I know its not going to do much if anything on my completely bald temples, the only topical that could do anything about that looks like BNP-32.

In any case, regardless of BNP or CB, these are not excuses to stop demand for Dr. Lauster, Tsuji Labs, Aderans, Histogen or Replicel to finally give us a legitimate cure or something substantially better than finasteride.

Wow dude that stuff looks amazing holy cow! But I see the clinical tris now are being carried out for heart desease not hair loss, correct? What is the progress and overall situation with this drug?

[tonypizza]

i'd check the hatch

[UK Boy]

I'd say CB-03-01 and BNP-32 are far more exciting.

BNP-32 showed results that are better than minox, finasteride and ru5884 all COMBINED. It basically regrew a shit-ton of hair on individuals of 60 years of age and older and from the small trial it showed no side effects (injected use) Of the 45 subjects only 4 complained of adverse reactions, of those 4, one was in the placebo group. (And it's also worth noting that all participants had pre existing heart conditions). Of he other 3, 1 suffered hypertension, 1 suffered dizziness and one suffered blurry vision. Keep in mind the body already produces BNP-32 naturally.

Now heres something to think about;

If 60+ year olds didnt get sides from topical use, how much better off would a younger HEALTHY individual be with any potential side effects?

Now here's the even more exciting part that should render all other topicals useless;

If BNP-32 applied topically regrew hair in slick bald areas back to normal densities on individuals of 60+ years of age who VERY LIKELY have had these slick bald areas for a long time as well as been affected by baldness by 10, 20, 30+ years where the follicle was either dormant or so miniaturized it was far from noticeable even as peach fuzz, what could the potential be for someone whos recently been balding? Or someone who hasnt been balding for that long?

Just look at the results:

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_62

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_50

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_47

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_56

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_24

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_51

http://www.faqs.org/patents/imgfull/20120238498_64 <--- this example is where BNP-32 makes every other solution a JOKE.


Here's the clinical trial:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00252187

When people get excited about scarless FUE... it doesn't matter, your're still destroying your donor hair and MPB is usually progressive so ultimately it will get worse and that scarless FUE is going to be moot.

I'm seriously thinking of trying BNP-32 as a topical, but am just as seriously considering the risks and backing out. I just got a supply of CB good for about 5 months, but I know its not going to do much if anything on my completely bald temples, the only topical that could do anything about that looks like BNP-32.

In any case, regardless of BNP or CB, these are not excuses to stop demand for Dr. Lauster, Tsuji Labs, Aderans, Histogen or Replicel to finally give us a legitimate cure or something substantially better than finasteride.

Hellouser, had anyone used BNP-32 yet or are they all waiting on group buys? I was very excited by the patent when we saw it the other month but these things never seem to be as good when people try them through the grey market - OC never worked as hoped, CB hasn't been great (I know cos of not the right vehicle) RU seems to have had the best results but it was years before people started getting better results with RU. I would love BNP to show results like in the patient though, if you start using it please keep us updated. Do you know how to mix it and what with?

[Desmond84]

Hey guys

Sorry for the late reply! I've been trying to stick by my words and get out there and have some fun! Trying to forget about this damn curse LOL

I've got another MIND BLOWING news for you guys! Up until now, we have been unable to multiply Dermal Papillae cells to sufficient numbers without them losing their trichogenicity (hair inducing potential)!

Note. Aderans claims they are capable of doing that but have not published any information about how they have mastered such a groundbreaking technique!

Anyhow, these scientists in South Korea have cracked the code! They managed to extract Mesenchymal stem cells from the bone marrow and convert them into Dermal Papillae cells! By the sounds of things each extraction may be capable of producing 1000-2000 DP cells!

Anyway, they planted these induced DP cells into hairless mice to see if they have the same hair inducing potential as normal DP and guess what? voila, a nice patch of hair started growing on the mice's head!!!

Now, don't forget this is where Tsuji lab was stuck on! Once we can multiply DP cells, Tsuji lab is ready to go!

It's the most promising discovery for the hairloss community!

On the side note though, bone marrow injections are excruciatingly painful! But no pain no gain I suppose right? LOL

http://www.jdsjournal.com/article/S0923-1811(10)00272-0/abstract

[Desmond84]

Oh, also sending out lots of love to Stayhopeful and the BTT gang!

You guys rock and I'm more than honored to be allowed to be part of this community


Cheers guys