How does Dr. Wesley's Scarless Pilofocus work?

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  • gc83uk
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1339

    #46
    Originally posted by UK Boy
    I think this is really exciting news, I actually had initial contact with Dr. Wesley's office weeks ago but have been taking my time to correspond with them cos I still feel scared about any hair transplant surgery and at the mo I can still style my hair to hide my hair loss but having heard Spencer's reaction to this has really made me happy. I totally get what you guys are saying - if it's just scarless then what's the big deal but this is huge to me, I have previously had keloid scarring so before this hair transplant was def not and option for me, people will say "well you could go to Gho then cos he does scarless" but Gho's scarless has not been officially proven and Gho even admitted in interview that his procedure does cause "a change" to the tissue in the follicle - so basically there is some fibrosis of tissue with Gho which could cause trouble for me. If Dr. Wesley's procedure is exactly as he claims then it 'should' be ok for me. I also have quite a lot of body hair so maybe I could use that instead of my donor. Plus did you not listen to Spencer - he said theoretically there should be the possibility of regeneration with this. If there is no scaring and regeneration plus recipient results to match FUT and this is shared with every hair doc how can you not see this as being HUGE! Everyone agrees that Doctors like Dr. Feriduni and Hasson and Wong do great hairline work with dense looking results - but they use traditional methods which cause scarring and no regeneration but imagine this treatment being done by them if it works as Spencer hopes it will. Of course we still want Histogen and Aderans to come out but this is gonna happen A LOT sooner and I think it's great news.

    So intrigued as to how Dr. Wesley does this.
    UK Boy your condition intrigues me.

    I have scarring alopecia, which according to one doctor maybe still active making me unsuitable for a tranplant because it may re-start my condition. I decided to take a calculated risk and go for HST. I've had 3 hst's so far. And planning my 4th later this year.

    Please tell me why you would consider pilofocus over HST especially as your from the UK? I'm intrigued. Am I missing something?

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    • DepressedByHairLoss
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 854

      #47
      Originally posted by hellouser
      You mocking me has ZERO effect on me. So what if its scarless? That doesn't change the fact that everyone is still eventually completely SCREWED without a legitimate cure. Instead of pushing our way for the really WEAK baby steps, why are we not demanding that something is made available from Dr. Lauster's work? Or Tsuji? Or Aderans to hurry the fvck up?

      You mentioned body hair as well. Ok, and how many people have enough body hair to add enough density? Is the procedure for body hair going to be completely out of reach as Dr. Umar's with his fvcking insane prices, $8 per graft and most of those grafts are SINGLE hairs? Problem with body hair is that often times HALF of the implanted grafts fail to grow.

      Yeah, great that theres a small step forward... but the reality is still BULLSHIT.

      Unless theres any kind of regeneration, this news is mostly MEH.
      Amen Hellouser, I totally agree with you. Although I do applaud Dr. Wesley for bringing innovation to a field that has been sorely lacking in innovation for the longest time, a traditional hair transplant (with or without a scar) is still a very limited procedure that cannot give anyone anything close to a full head of hair. And these body and beard hair transplants are just an absolute joke. I don't think they'd even appeal to 5% of hair loss sufferers. We really need a non- or minimally-invasive hair regrowth procedure that actually stimulates regrowth of hair follicles and doesn't just simply move them from one place to another.

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      • UK Boy
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 240

        #48
        Originally posted by gc83uk
        UK Boy your condition intrigues me.

        I have scarring alopecia, which according to one doctor maybe still active making me unsuitable for a tranplant because it may re-start my condition. I decided to take a calculated risk and go for HST. I've had 3 hst's so far. And planning my 4th later this year.

        Please tell me why you would consider pilofocus over HST especially as your from the UK? I'm intrigued. Am I missing something?
        I understand your query totally GC, it would be a lot easier for me to have a procedure with HASCI in the UK, London isn't far at all. I was particularly interested in HSI and originally thought that was the treatment you had had. I know yours isn't HSI but rather HST but sligtly different when it comes to placement in the recipient.

        I've been emailing Deborah who informed me HSI is still some years away so my initial reaction was to hold off for that. I recently emailed Deborah to ask if she thought HST would be safe for me and she asked to see pictures of the keloid scarring I suffered to gauge the severity. Thing is my keloid scarring happed after an operation over 12 years ago and I had the scars treated but it was an ordeal - first steroid injections that didn't work, then the keloids removed surgically with radiation therapy to avoid them returning but they still did in one area but these were luckily treated with steriod injections. I'm still waiting to see what Deborah says but the fact that they wanted to know the severity makes me think that there is still a risk of keloids occuring with HST.

        From what Spencer says in the latest show Dr. Wesley is claiming no absolutely no scarring and he's going though clinical trails to prove it. I still don't know for sure but I will have a Skype consultation with him to see what he thinks.

        Incidentally it was your individual case that got me to contact HASCI so thank you for all the time and information you've put into the forum and I'm glad you've had such goood results.

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1408

          #49
          still not clear on why spencer thinks wesley's is scarless, but ghos leaves micro scarring.

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          • Kiwi
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1087

            #50
            Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
            still not clear on why spencer thinks wesley's is scarless, but ghos leaves micro scarring.
            There are lots of things that you're not clear on. Why tell us your problems... or just "ask" politely what the differences are.

            Maybe Spencer would participate on threads if people were not so ****ing hostile and such dick heads.

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            • HARIRI
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 467

              #51
              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
              still not clear on why spencer thinks wesley's is scarless, but ghos leaves micro scarring.
              OH pls Buddy, don't mention GHO name in this thread. A big fight will occur again by the GHO advocates

              Anyways its a good question though. What I know is that Dr. Gho takes the graft split it into two, one part to be implanted in the recipient slit (balding area) and the other implanted back to the donor slit. It is an easy concept but slow and time consuming.

              However Dr. Wesely's technique totally different. I have been thinking about it since last Tuesday and couldn't get any clue. Maybe there is a genius member right here that can crack the code.
              Last edited by Winston; 04-15-2013, 06:09 PM. Reason: False commentary removed.

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              • NeedHairASAP
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1408

                #52
                Originally posted by HARIRI
                OH pls Buddy, don't mention GHO name in this thread. A big fight will occur again by the GHO advocates

                Anyways its a good question though. What I know is that Dr. Gho takes the graft split it into two, one part to be implanted in the recipient slit (balding area) and the other implanted back to the donor slit. It is an easy concept but slow and time consuming.

                However Dr. Wesely's technique totally different. I have been thinking about it since last Tuesday and couldn't get any clue. Maybe there is a genius member right here that can crack the code. Spencer knows about it but doesn't want to share it
                It doesn't sound like you understand what Gho is doing. Please stop mis-informing. I know you're not doing it on purpose, but you are doing it.


                anyway, I would love to hear how Dr. Wesley's technique works. I highly doubt its "totally different" other than it doesn't offer regeneration.
                Last edited by Winston; 04-15-2013, 06:06 PM. Reason: False and misleading commentary removed.

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                • UK Boy
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 240

                  #53
                  Spencer implied Dr. Wesley was 'truly' scarless as in no scaring - not even micro scaring like Gho. I'm interested in your last paragraph though where you say you're not allowed to mention something, is that implying that you've spoken to Dr. Wesley and know more but are not allowed to divulge?
                  Last edited by Winston; 04-15-2013, 06:14 PM.

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                  • PayDay
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 544

                    #54
                    Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                    still not clear on why spencer thinks wesley's is scarless, but ghos leaves micro scarring.
                    How can it not be clear when it was Gho who described the micro scarring during the last Kobren/Gho interview?

                    Kobren is obviously privy to what Dr. Wesley is doing and is impressed. So what's the issue with that? He was privy to what Gho was doing and let us know about the micro scarring even before Gho discussed it, which leads me to believe that he knows what he's talking about when it comes to this new technique. Also, I never remember him saying that micro scarring was such a bad thing, so what's the issue?

                    Kiwi makes a great point, your hostility is uncalled for and completely counterproductive. Grow up!

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                    • UK Boy
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 240

                      #55
                      Thoughts on Dr.Wesley & question for Arista

                      I've been going through old discussions of Dr. Wesley's technique, there was quite a lot back in 2011 when he first asked for trial participants. A couple of guys who saw his presentation then gave some info about the technique. It sounds like it could have aspects of HASCI's HSI technique because they said the grafts spend literally only minutes outside the body and there's very little trauma to the follicles. If it wasn't for the fact that everyone acts as if it's something completely different I would assume he's doing the same kinda thing as Gho, would explain why Spencer thinks that theoretically there could be regen. Arista back in Jan you said you were going to arrange a chat with Dr.Wesley, did you do so? Any hints that you can give about the technique?

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                      • 67mph
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 216

                        #56
                        ...are we all about to have Kim Jong Un hair styles?

                        On a serious note, this seems like a nice big step in the right direction, good luck Dr Wesley, good luck everyone.

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                        • HARIRI
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 467

                          #57
                          I think Dr. Wesely technique is simply

                          (Invivo without hole but by plucking partial follicle with twizer)

                          I hope I am right one day. Been thinking of it long time.

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                          • PayDay
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 544

                            #58
                            This might give us some clues on how it works:

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                            • youngin
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 338

                              #59
                              Nice find!!!

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                              • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 638

                                #60
                                thats explains everything wow,
                                thanks

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