How does Dr. Wesley's Scarless Pilofocus work?

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  • Joker
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 121

    Artista, anything else you can impart? Looks like we're losing hope fast in here...

    Hearing from doc Wesley (or seeing the presentation you viewed) would be really huge.

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    • StayThick
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 624

      If it was revolutionary or even a slight game changer, we would have heard something by now.

      Propecia and Rogaine. That's all we got folks for the immediate future. Terrible.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        Originally posted by StayThick
        If it was revolutionary or even a slight game changer, we would have heard something by now.

        Propecia and Rogaine. That's all we got folks for the immediate future. Terrible.
        I'm going to vomit at the thought of Finasteride and Minoxidil... 2014 and this garbage is still our best option?

        What a god damn failure... these scientists and researchers have got to be some of the most incompetent I've heard of... 30+ years in trying to find a solution and they still haven't got it? You can only laugh at these guys.

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        • StayThick
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 624

          Originally posted by hellouser
          I'm going to vomit at the thought of Finasteride and Minoxidil... 2014 and this garbage is still our best option?

          What a god damn failure... these scientists and researchers have got to be some of the most incompetent I've heard of... 30+ years in trying to find a solution and they still haven't got it? You can only laugh at these guys.
          Couldn't agree more. I'd argue we will see a cure for cancer before scientists can crank the bald gene code.

          It's just too complicated for these guys. We hear hints and clues what seems to be every 8-12 months on a possible "cure" yet nothing ever comes to fruition or the companies magically vanish. In fact, I'd go as far and say that information is purposely leaked to inform baldies "hey, we are on it" simply to provide hope. I'd say that makes everything worse because than a false expectation is created. BS. Tired of it. Tired of all of it.

          Aside from Propecia, the best available treatments for me were the same ones available prior to my arrival on this earth in the 80's. Disgusting.

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          • Artista
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 2070

            Hi Joker my friend!
            First of all, I can understand that many many many of us here are desperate to fix our hair loss.
            I SO WISH that one of the upcoming regenerative treatments were available to us all NOW!!
            That being said,,Ive read some of the negative views related to Dr Wesley's imminent new Pilofocus method.
            Ive also read Dr Nigam's remarks too.
            Im not one to get into negative debates or arguments here because it serves no use to any of us.
            Ill soon be one of Dr Wesley's phase test patients and i cant wait..(maybe next month)
            I wrote to him this morning and am awaiting his response..Until that time I respect the agreement I made with him not to talk in specifics.
            Joker, dont lose hope brother .. quite frankly Im wondering if Dr Nigam saw the SAME presentation that I did?
            Dr Wesley may have only focused on the new tools he has been developing (still is) for this new 'scar-less' procedure.. I have no idea.
            None of us were there to back up or to dismiss any of it.
            I was and still am very IMPRESSED with Dr Wesley's technology and of its factual outcomes. Spencer Kobren was completely CORRECT in his assertions and impressions.

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            • didi
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1360

              Originally posted by Artista
              Hi Joker my friend!
              First of all, I can understand that many many many of us here are desperate to fix our hair loss.
              I SO WISH that one of the upcoming regenerative treatments were available to us all NOW!!
              That being said,,Ive read some of the negative views related to Dr Wesley's imminent new Pilofocus method.
              Ive also read Dr Nigam's remarks too.
              Im not one to get into negative debates or arguments here because it serves no use to any of us.
              Ill soon be one of Dr Wesley's phase test patients and i cant wait..(maybe next month)
              I wrote to him this morning and am awaiting his response..Until that time I respect the agreement I made with him not to talk in specifics.
              Joker, dont lose hope brother .. quite frankly Im wondering if Dr Nigam saw the SAME presentation that I did?
              Dr Wesley may have only focused on the new tools he has been developing (still is) for this new 'scar-less' procedure.. I have no idea.
              None of us were there to back up or to dismiss any of it.
              I was and still am very IMPRESSED with Dr Wesley's technology and of its factual outcomes. Spencer Kobren was completely CORRECT in his assertions and impressions.

              Artista

              Can you ask Dr wesley for permission to talk about scarelss fue since he isnt releasing any info to general public even though he did piloficus presentation at ISHRS meeting.

              Somebody can contact Spencer to talk about it on next radio show, its been a week since ishrs conf and this so called revolutionary ht technology didnt make any news headlines.

              We would like to know whether pilofocus is completly scarless and can you harvest more hair(outside so called safe zone) compared to FUE/FUT?
              Is it possible to evenly harvest 40% of donor, that would be enough to pull 'marine' look which most bald guys would be happy with, something which is imposible with fue/fut ...

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              • Artista
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 2070

                WHEW ,,thanks Admin' !!!
                Im glad that it will be a topic of discussion on the live show!!
                I may call in if it is possible..
                Didi,,will you be able to listen tonight?

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1360

                  Artista
                  Ill try, have to see time diff, it will be posted on TBT soon after anyway..

                  Good if you call in and ask some questions such as when will it go mainstream, price, possibilities and limitations, training other docs, etc

                  Dr Cole was very impressed with pilofocus, will see

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by tbtadmin
                    You can all check out the exclusive public premier of Dr. Wesley's Piloscopy presentation LIVE on tonight 's The Bald Truth @ 8pm EST/ 5pm PST.
                    Will this be uploaded to youtube for later viewing? I might not be able to watch it live...

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                    • Number47
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 29

                      Artista can i ask you, did Dr. Wesley ever tried this procedure before on volunteers or are you gonna be from the first people to do it.

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                      • Artista
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2070

                        Didi,,are you in England? Spencer's show will be on podcast ,usually a few days after airing but,,I and others will post anything of value asap here on the forum.
                        Number47, (i like that name)
                        Oh no my friend,,i would not be the first one of this procedure.
                        There have been many phase test patients , Ive seen the factual data/before and after photos etc during our PowerPoint presentation!
                        Dr Wesley is still improving upon his tools and mechanics that is why I will be yet another phase test patient..
                        Im so glad that The Bald Truth live show will be having the exclusive public premier of Dr. Wesley's Piloscopy presentation

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                        • Sogeking
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 494

                          Can't watch it, will there be a published recording on baldtruth.com?
                          I hope it will.
                          AS for the pilofocus method... Well just having no scars from FUE won't help us much. I am just too sceptical...

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                          • Artista
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2070

                            Hi Sogeking, more than likely TBT will publish a section of tonight's show.
                            Nothing wrong with being skeptical my friend..just as long as your mind is open to all possibilities.
                            Quite frankly,This new method isn't at all just about a 'scar-less' procedure.
                            There is a LOT more to it than you know.
                            This new science of being able to go underneath the skin in such a way as to microscopically view a hair follicle's dermal papilla,bulb,the outer root sheath and all of the corresponding stem cells minutely enough to be able to remove the follicle as to leave behind enough STEM CELLS that would PROMOTE the regrowth/regeneration of the removed follicle. (That in conjunction with a particular treatment applied -Acell! )
                            The removal of hair follicles in this way has never been done before..The implications and the findings are amazing.
                            As Didi has said here,,Dr Cole was IMPRESSED with Dr Wesley's technique.
                            Before anyone begins to down play Acell,,There has been a long standing negative view of Acell..
                            For those that are not aware of Acell.. It has been around WAY BEFORE being introduced into hair treatment possibilities.
                            It has PROVEN to regrow finger tips..muscle, internal organs etc etc..
                            The introduction of Acell to hair treatment possibilities was just a few years ago. Great doctors like Dr Cole have been working on its application to treatment for hair...but It is still in its adolescents stage guys!
                            Some have stated that Dr Cooley CREATED Acell,,but that is FURTHEST from the truth.
                            I believe Dr Cooley was possibly the first to introduce Acell to hair treatment BUT he did NOT create Acell....The late great Dr. Alan Spievack(RIP) co-created it with his team of experts many years ago now.
                            In fact Dr Spievack's brother, Lee Spievack was the first person to have had his finger REGROWN after losing it during a mishap.
                            He accidentally chopped off that finger by the propeller of a model plane at his hobby shop.
                            Alan's "Pixie Dust" as they lovingly called it, was applied for months and low and behold ,,his finger REGREW. That is factual.
                            In 2010 '60 Minutes' had an exposé on Acell. The military uses Acell when needed to our wounded veterans from those damned wars of ours. For instance- They have SAVED damaged muscles that would normally have been removed.
                            Check it out here-


                            At any rate,,do not dismiss Acell based on loose information or speculations that you have heard before.
                            Dr Cole in-particular is doing a great job at improving upon its usage.
                            By the looks of Dr Wesley's before and after photos that I have seem at the PowerPoint presentation he shared with me , the donor hair regrowth/regeneration was breathtaking!!
                            I dont feel that I am exaggerating..I try to keep myself very objective.

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                            • Number47
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 29

                              Oh man you really let the cat out of the bag with this one...

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                              • sdsurfin
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 702

                                same?

                                It seems like in essence dr. wesley and nigam are trying to do the same thing, and i'm skeptical but hopeful that either one works. Pilofocus would essentially be splitting the hair follicle in a way that leaves enough material for regrowth. I'm assuming Dr. Nigam is not excited about a method that essentially does what his doubling may or may not do, but from the inside. I personally believe that Nigam has good ideas, but makes way larger claims than what he is actually capable of doing at the moment.

                                On a positive note, I think that if Nigam's doubling does work, it may lead to insights as to how to split follicles in the most effective way, and those findings could be used in developing new mechanical technology that works with something like pilofocus. I'm also not sure what Nigam is injecting or adding to the re-inserted bisected follicle, but it is probably better than Acell, and if Nigams technique proves to work, I think that the hairloss community should demand that pilofocus and NIgams technologies and methods should be used together, instead of branching out and creating two less effective techniques.

                                On a third note, I wonder why Christiano's findings and engineering of DP groups cannot be used to promote the growth of bisected follicles for now, instead of always trying to grow new ones. If a 3d grouping of DP cells can grow a new hair with 22 percent gene expression, then why can't such a grouping of cells be injected next to a follicle bisected by Pilofocus or Nigams- surely it would act to make new hair, and the remaining cellular material might make up for the remaining necessary genes. We would still be left with moving hair from the back of the head to the top, but essentially there would be a cure.

                                I would love to have answers from the real researchers concerning these questions, or at least get them to read this, is anyone in contact with people like Jahoda or Christiano or Wesley?

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